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Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:13 am**

TEAM  TEAMID  GP  TODAY     TODATE    PENALTIES LTIR      PROJECTED OVER_CAP CONTR  MAXCAP    CAPSPACE
ANA   1     78    57850000  57834615  0         0         57835365    N      48     102225000  44375000
CBJ   2     80    46680000  47703125  0         0         47678170    N      46     551875000  505195000
BOS   3     79    53550000  54424050  0         0         54392073    N      51     206833333  153283333
BUF   4     80    50512500  54741250  9062500   0         54638109    N      49     270350000  219837500
CGY   5     80    53140000  52270000  3450000   0         52291219    N      52     369200000  316060000
CAR   6     80    49850000  54558125  3400000   0         54443292    N      49     277675000  227825000
CHI   7     79    59100000  58003101  3525000   0         58043231    N      45     112585000  53485000
COL   8     79    60900000  58519620  300000    0         58606707    N      50     98983333   38083333
WPG   9     79    48875000  47984493  7525000   0         48017073    N      52     376408333  327533333
DAL   10    79    61950000  59414936  200000    0         59507682    N      49     75406666   13456666

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TEAM  TEAMID  GP  TODAY     TODATE    PENALTIES LTIR      PROJECTED OVER_CAP CONTR  MAXCAP    CAPSPACE
DET   11    79    62175000  58610126  1075000   1600000   58740548    N      50     96600000   34425000
EDM   12    79    57600000  55793037  1050000   0         55859146    N      51     170783333  113183333
FLA   13    79    59800000  60062025  1600000   0         60052439    Y      49     58366666   -1433333
LA    14    79    61300000  58537341  0         0         58638414    N      46     98516666   37216666
MIN   15    80    60300000  59790000  0         0         59802439    N      50     68400000   8100000
MTL   16    80    59050000  58590625  0         0         58601829    N      47     116375000  57325000
NYI   17    79    55900000  54971518  0         0         55005487    N      47     192416666  136516666
NYR   18    80    59625000  59581250  0         0         59582317    N      47     76750000   17125000
NAS   19    80    59400000  59912500  0         0         59900000    N      49     63500000   4100000
NJ    20    79    54550000  56819936  4600000   0         56736890    N      49     143741666  89191666

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TEAM  TEAMID  GP  TODAY     TODATE    PENALTIES LTIR      PROJECTED OVER_CAP CONTR  MAXCAP    CAPSPACE
OTT   21    79    60900000  59955379  0         0         59989939    N      49     61175000   275000
PHI   22    80    57600000  58240000  3400000   0         58224390    N      50     130400000  72800000
ARZ   23    80    54350000  54706250  0         0         54697560    N      49     271750000  217400000
PIT   24    80    59650000  59775000  0         5700000   59771951    N      49     69000000   9350000
SJ    25    79    60430000  59705316  0         0         59731829    N      48     67760000   7330000
STL   26    80    60000000  59921875  0         800000    59923780    N      48     63125000   3125000
TB    27    80    60000000  59943625  0         1300000   59945000    N      49     62255000   2255000
TOR   28    79    60700000  60029746  0         0         60054268    Y      47     59216666   -1483333
VAN   29    80    54700000  56981875  0         0         56926219    N      49     180725000  126025000
WAS   30    80    52100000  52072500  1300000   0         52073170    N      47     377100000  325000000

TBD:

Returning soon:

LTIR:

Owen Beck (1.35, STL>60)
Josh Brook (0, CGY<55)
Pavel Buchnevich (0, EDM<55)
Blake Clarke (0, COL@57.05)
Alex Coulombe (1.3, TB>60)
Patrick Guay (0, NYI<57)
Martin Kaut (0, CBS<47)
Christian Kyrou (0, CBS<47)
Shawn Matthias (0, DET@55.35)
Jared McIsaac (0, NJ<54)
Ryan Murray (0, CBS<60)
Tyler Myers (1.6, DET>60)
Brent Seabrook (0.8, STL>60)
Owen Tippett (1.845, CHI@57.545)
Nail Yakupov (5.7, PIT@59.65)
Kailer Yamamoto (0, EDM<53)
Trevor Zegras (0, CBS<50)

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:14 am**

MIN are cheating cheaters and way over the cap due to Bokk and Hoglander (they are too old to be exempt on the farm).

NAS will presumably be okay with Zacha's LTIR and MTL just needs a slight shuffle.

MIN and NJ both still have way too many contracts.

Posted: **Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:17 am**

MTL is slightly over, but that's without Hunter Skinner who I presume is going down. Someone else needs to join him.

FLA, similarly, is 1M over with 23 on the roster.

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:54 am**

SharksGM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:17 am MTL is slightly over, but that's without Hunter Skinner who I presume is going down. Someone else needs to join him.

FLA, similarly, is 1M over with 23 on the roster.

What's the penalty for teams breaking the rules?

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:52 am**

Dallas Stars GM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:54 am
SharksGM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:17 am MTL is slightly over, but that's without Hunter Skinner who I presume is going down. Someone else needs to join him.

FLA, similarly, is 1M over with 23 on the roster.
What's the penalty for teams breaking the rules?

Nothing preliminarily, because the team is projected over, not year over. It becomes very hard to fix if ignored, but small errors can be course corrected.

So generally, it's get compliant with your own decisions, even if suboptimal, quickly. Most teams can make it happen by sending good young players to the AHL where their salaries don't count, even if that's bad for development or the NHL team generally. They can work on deals that allow them to fix that going forward.

I don't believe we've ever had a team directly opposed and refuse to fix it. I'm sure the league can step in in such cases

Posted: **Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:29 am**

FLA and MTL are still over. LA and NJ still have too many.

Dallas Stars GM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:54 am What's the penalty for teams breaking the rules?

Early in the season - incessant nagging. If no action is taken, I will do something on the team's behalf. In this case, I'd waive Beckman for FLA and call up a 600k forward, and waive one of MTL's 14 forwards, probably Legare.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:28 pm**

FLA is at 60M but still needs to spend a few games below 60M to get their projected cap below 60M as well. i.e. send Sourdif down and call up someone making 600k for a couple of weeks.

Posted: **Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:04 pm**

Apologies for the delay in updating but NAS has been over the cap for a couple of games since Zacha's return and needs to demote a forward or otherwise get under.

Posted: **Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:58 am**

NAS still over. FLA, I presume, recalled somebody one game early and is $2,941 over.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:36 am**

NAS is still over and has been over for weeks, so if they don't send someone down for at least a game I'll have to pick a random guy on the roster.

STL is over due to Pinelli coming back from IR and VAN is over due to I dunno some roster changes.

Remember you only need 22 players on your roster so if you're carrying 23 all season long for any other reason than to avoid waiving someone, you're depriving your team of cap room.

Posted: **Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:21 am**

SharksGM wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:36 am and VAN is over due to I dunno some roster changes.

Waiting for a trade to go through.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:06 am**

NAS needs to make one demotion now and really ought to make two.

Posted: **Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:48 pm**

OTT is over with Kirkland's return.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:11 am**

PIT is over, presumably having called up someone to fill in for Geekie.

Posted: **Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:35 pm**

PIT is still over.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:20 am**

PIT is under now, but TB is over.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:54 am**

WPG is over the contract limit.

NAS will be a little more than 800k over the cap when Bogosian returns tomorrow, and also over the roster limit.

Posted: **Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:27 am**

OTT is substantially over.

NAS remains slightly over, as usual.

Posted: **Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:00 am**

MIN is slightly over due to Beauvillier's return from LTIR, NAS due to never going under 60M, and OTT due to I presume recent trades.

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:05 am**

NAS never going under 60M can't be true. I had injured Bogosian for months with salary 7m+ and few weeks Zacha with salary 4m+, without any other expensive replacement.

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:45 am**

NashvillePredatorsGM wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:05 am NAS never going under 60M can't be true. I had injured Bogosian for months with salary 7m+ and few weeks Zacha with salary 4m+, without any other expensive replacement.

You started the season at 60.8M and then went down to 60M for some time. Yes you had LTIR for every game except the day when Zacha came back from IR (which is when you went over). You didn't have a day under 60M until March 5th (and I haven't run the numbers since then, yet).

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:09 am**

Ok my bad, I'm not studied much this cap calculations. I just thought minus 7m is bigger impact then plus 0.8m.

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:43 pm**

NashvillePredatorsGM wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:09 am Ok my bad, I'm not studied much this cap calculations. I just thought minus 7m is bigger impact then plus 0.8m.

LTIR never reduces cap hits below 60M, otherwise you could gain cap room by using it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:51 am**

I misremembered the details - NAS had three games after Zacha's return (Nov 13, 14, 18) at 61.2M - 0.8M LTIR = 60.4M, so a net of 1.2M over. The two recent games at 59.6 take care of that. Then there was another game on Dec 11 when Dmitri Samorukov was brought up as a healthy scratch, putting that day's charge as 61.6M - 0.8M LTIR = 800k over. That part still needs to be balanced by season's end.

Everyone else is okay except for roster limits which I presume is mainly fastsigns that haven't been removed. Also note that the game can give fastsigns salaries over 800k and they will start affecting your cap if you don't get rid of them, so it's up to you to a) keep enough players at each position on the farm and b) get rid of those fastsigns ASAP.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:10 am**

SharksGM wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:43 pm
NashvillePredatorsGM wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:09 am Ok my bad, I'm not studied much this cap calculations. I just thought minus 7m is bigger impact then plus 0.8m.
LTIR never reduces cap hits below 60M, otherwise you could gain cap room by using it.

Thanks for clarification, I did'nt knew that LTIR not reduce cap hit.

Posted: **Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:00 am**

FLA is over the cap with Kostin off LTIR.

Posted: **Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:55 am**

FLA and TOR are both over the cap and I don't see any way to get them under, so they'll accrue some penalties for next season.

I did advise FLA to waive UPL, but that actually wasn't going to be enough and didn't help at all since Lindblom makes 800k. I demoted Lindblom on their behalf and replaced him with Ward, but that's just a 200k savings.

For TOR I demoted Nordh since he's waiver-ineligible. That, too, is not enough.

Of course I didn't actually get around to writing a rule for additional penalties for finishing the season over the cap, as I intended to, so the penalties for next season will be small (50-100k as it stands). Such is life. Both teams are welcome to find better solutions, of course.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:08 am**

FLA finished the season at 60052439 and TOR at 60054268, so I suppose we can just round those to 50k penalties for next season.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:06 pm**

SharksGM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:08 am TOR at 60054268

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
RNH should be suspended for the 1st round vs MTL

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:32 pm**

SensGM wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:06 pm
SharksGM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:08 am TOR at 60054268
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
RNH should be suspended for the 1st round vs MTL

Or just like, .0008% of him, since that's what 50K of a 60m cap is? Lol.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:22 pm**

NYRNYRNYR wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:32 pm
SensGM wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:06 pm
SharksGM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:08 am TOR at 60054268
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
RNH should be suspended for the 1st round vs MTL
Or just like, .0008% of him, since that's what 50K of a 60m cap is? Lol.

Still!
A cap is a cap. Whatever the amount of $ youve been over.
He finished ahead Montreal and gain home advantage in the series.

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:52 am**

Suspend my best player for an entire round because I was barely over the cap?

Fuck off

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:18 am**

TorontoGM wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:52 am Fuck off

Seriously?...
We can't give our opinion without being insulted anymore?

It's a suggestion for a rule change for next seasons:

SharksGM wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:55 am Of course I didn't actually get around to writing a rule for additional penalties for finishing the season over the cap, as I intended to, so the penalties for next season will be small (50-100k as it stands). Such is life. Both teams are welcome to find better solutions, of course.

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:11 am**

SharksGM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:08 am FLA finished the season at 60052439 and TOR at 60054268, so I suppose we can just round those to 50k penalties for next season.

My rule suggestion would be that the cap penalty the following season be 4x how much a team goes over. Given they get plenty of warnings, even going 50k over shouldn't happen, so a 200k penalty seems mild to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: **Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:38 pm**

I was thinking of setting a minimum penalty of somewhere between 300k and 600k, but anyway this is a discussion for the offseason.

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