Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide

Marco Sturm and Shane O'Brien on waivers with no intention to buyout.

Buffalo demotes :

Patrick Kaleta

Promote to NHL U20:
Anthony Duclair
Juuse Saros
Nicolas Petan

Assign to AHL U20:
Kasperi Kapanen
Leon Draisaitl
Pavel Buchnevich

done through GM office.

Montreal will claim Kaleta.

Also, release Nick Boynton.

Blues put in claim for Kaleta

Kaleta cleared waivers at 1:05pm today, not eligible to be claimed.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Kaleta cleared waivers at 1:05pm today, not eligible to be claimed.

Yah but you'e not supposed to mention that your player is eligible to be claimed when you demote him?

We have had discussions about it before. It is certaintly good etiquette to do so, but there is no rule that says you have to indicate the players eligibility. A former GM, Parker, never did and said it was up to other GMs to take the time to check whether the player could be claimed or not.

I always do, but since it's much easier to sneak players through waivers with GM Office, posting in this thread is all that is required currently. Kaleta also has an extinct two-way, so Leps might not of known that.

Think that should be mandatory.

I'd say we should have one forum for demotions and one for waivers rather than doing it all in one. Especially since demotions can be done through GM Office.

Vik (Habs) wrote:I'd say we should have one forum for demotions and one for waivers rather than doing it all in one. Especially since demotions can be done through GM Office.

I like this idea.

I wonder if we can get Quinn to add a line in GMO that read a player's career stats, so you could at least go to that to see if your guy is waiver eligible.

Frankly, if GMO is working, do we really need to post every demotion that has no waiver consequences?

No, we don't.

I don't care/need to know if GM ''Y'' demotes a player.

All I need to know is who goes on waivers.

PLEASE don't add another forum section!!!

Decaf, Alex, decaf.

I too would rather not have another new forum. We'll see what we can do.

Greg.

flyergp21 wrote:Greg.

Obviously I've had my decaf for the day.

As someone who sim's, I love the idea of dedicating this topic to waiver eligible transactions only.

flyergp21 wrote:No, we don't.

I don't care/need to know if GM ''Y'' demotes a player.

All I need to know is who goes on waivers.

PLEASE don't add another forum section!!!

Well another forum section would eliminate the need for you to see who all is going up and down. Right now, you have to look if you want to see if someone's on waivers or not (in this thread). If there was another section, you could just skip it and only have to check the waiver section.

Commish Bub(NYR) wrote:I wonder if we can get Quinn to add a line in GMO that read a player's career stats, so you could at least go to that to see if your guy is waiver eligible.

Frankly, if GMO is working, do we really need to post every demotion that has no waiver consequences?

Well this guy told me I had to...

Commish Bub(NYR) wrote:Just a gentle reminder, folks, to keep placing ALL of your promotions and demotions here, even if you do it in GM Office and think it's gone through. It's good practice to do so just in case something goes amiss, plus we can keep track of all waiver-related issues here.

I guess the problem with not having to post it is that someone might demote someone without realizing they require waivers (a la Brett Sonne). Of course, it's quite possible to do that now it's just ... more shady I guess since you're supposed to post. Although some jerk seems to be policing things like that even though no one asked him to so it might not matter.

Montreal demotes Justin Kirkland (certainly not eligible) and promotes Nigel Williams (which you didn't really need to know but was necessary to stay at the roster minimum).

The problem is even if demotions are made through GMO, the GM could also forget to mention it here.

Is there a way for you simmers to see all the demotions/recalls made through GMO when u make the sim?

Done through GMO (as were the previous transactions).

Demoted Heikki Liedes and Brandon Whitney (neither are waiver eligible so paws off).
Promoted Thomas Hundertpfund and Antti Raanta.

Montreal releases Henrik Bjorklund.

Soderberg down, Vaive up. Done through Office, no waivers.

Colorado waives Joe Corvo.
Done through GM Office.

Flyers release Jonathan Matsumoto.

DEMOTE: Jonas Ahnelov (I don't believe he's waiver-eligible, since he's still 26 yrs old and haven't played 100 NHL games). Also demote Sami Vatanen (not eligible for waivers).

PROMOTE: Matthew White (not eligible for waviers)

I think Ahnelov cant be sent down. Makes too much money

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:I think Ahnelov cant be sent down. Makes too much money

He can, but only for a week.
He CANNOT play in AHL though

I'm well-aware of that rule, no worries

Dallas Stars GM wrote:DEMOTE: Jonas Ahnelov (I don't believe he's waiver-eligible, since he's still 26 yrs old and haven't played 100 NHL games).

Tampa Bay GM wrote:WAIVERS

For players 26 or older, contract of 1 mill or less and = waiver free; over 1 mill he can be claimed

For 25 and under, contract of 1.5 mill or less + under 100 NHL GP = waiver free; 1.5 mill or less + over 100 NHL GP = can be claimed (players making over 1.5 mill can't play on the farm anyway, excepting players on their ELC)

According to this, he is waiver eligible. He'd have to be 25 for the 100 game rule.

Ok, then. Thank you for clarifying it. Jonas Ahnelov IS waiver-eligible.

Buffalo demotes :

Victor Rask
Brock Beukeboom


Buffalo promotes :

Lucas Lessio


Buffalo buys out :

Jimmy Vesey

Jets recall Tyler Kennedy from St. John's. (Injury exemption for Toffoli.)

GoJetsGo wrote:Jets recall Tyler Kennedy from St. John's. (Injury exemption for Toffoli.)

Toffoli's injury is down to 1 week so you don't get cap space for it.

Montreal demotes resident ping pong Nigel Williams (not waiver eligible, done through GMO).

Washington promotes C Pavel Kulikov to meet roster minimum. Hershey fastsigns C Craig Smith. No waivers no how.

Joe Corvo, sent down, Waiver eligible.

Vik (Habs) wrote:

GoJetsGo wrote:Jets recall Tyler Kennedy from St. John's. (Injury exemption for Toffoli.)

Toffoli's injury is down to 1 week so you don't get cap space for it.

If a player is injured for two or more weeks, the team will be granted an LTIR Injury Exemption.
Once the player returns from injury, the team must immediately be back under the $64M salary cap.
This includes activating the injured player when his status is listed as day-to-day (DtD).

I think Toffoli's still on "LTIR".

Calgary.Flames wrote:

Vik (Habs) wrote:

GoJetsGo wrote:Jets recall Tyler Kennedy from St. John's. (Injury exemption for Toffoli.)

Toffoli's injury is down to 1 week so you don't get cap space for it.

If a player is injured for two or more weeks, the team will be granted an LTIR Injury Exemption.
Once the player returns from injury, the team must immediately be back under the $64M salary cap.
This includes activating the injured player when his status is listed as day-to-day (DtD).

I think Toffoli's still on "LTIR".

So as long as the player's initial injury was for more than a week, you get the exemption up until he returns?

Vik (Habs) wrote:

Calgary.Flames wrote:

Vik (Habs) wrote:

GoJetsGo wrote:Jets recall Tyler Kennedy from St. John's. (Injury exemption for Toffoli.)

Toffoli's injury is down to 1 week so you don't get cap space for it.

If a player is injured for two or more weeks, the team will be granted an LTIR Injury Exemption.
Once the player returns from injury, the team must immediately be back under the $64M salary cap.
This includes activating the injured player when his status is listed as day-to-day (DtD).

I think Toffoli's still on "LTIR".

So as long as the player's initial injury was for more than a week, you get the exemption up until he returns?

Yes. Another way to look at it is that whenever the injury is noted in-game in the player's history, you get the exemption until he returns.

After the trade with Chicago, Avs recall
D Thomas Pock
L Max Reinhart

done via GM Office

Toronto demotes Matt Carey

Buffalo demotes :

Lucas Lessio


Buffalo promotes :

Brock Beukeboom

Montreal demoted Zach Sanford in GMO. No waivers.

Flyers demoted Simon Bertilsson and called up Stefan Ullmer (done).

WSH recall Andy Welinski.

Flyers release D Marc-Andre Bourdon.

Montreal demoted Colin Jacobs in GMO (not eligible).

Also, Garnet Exelby has been in the AHL for over a week. Haven't checked if there's anyone else down there that shouldn't be (Ahnelov's still got a couple days).

PROMOTE: Garnet Exelby (eligible), Sami Vatanen (non-eligible)
DEMOTE: Nicolas Deschamps, Matthew White (both non-eligible for waivers)

Chicago releases Ben Duffy and Jakub Sindel