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SUPER JOE

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:42 pm
by GM Office Q
Well, the player on the splash screen of EHM has finally called it a career. Congratulations on a spectacular career, Joe! Can't wait to hire him as an assistant coach :).

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:33 am
by shanYe - Predators
I don't think he'd make a great assistant coach, or head coach. I don't think he has the dominating and in control presence I think good coaches have.

I'm sure his team would respect him, but you can't lead a team on respect a lone, like it obviously didn't work for Gretzky.

The reason Joe was a great leader was because he would lead by example and that's not something you can do from behind the bench, this is the same reason why I don't think a guy like Sundin or Naslund will end up making a great coach either.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:41 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
shanYe - Predators wrote:The reason Joe was a great leader was because he would lead by example and that's not something you can do from behind the bench, this is the same reason why I don't think a guy like Sundin or Naslund will end up making a great coach either.
I completely disagree with this. In all sports, you see examples of coaches that lead by example. Certainly having the credibility of being a top 10/top 15 all-time player helps, but having a strong personality and a no-bullshit attitude is leading by example. The players feed off the coaches mannerisms and are the embodiment of their coach on the ice. The Miracle on Ice is a perfect example. Those players adopted Herb Brooks's personality without really realizing it. It was their driving force to beat a much more skilled opponent.

When the chips are down, everybody looks to the coach for guidance. In that respect, Sakic would make a great coach.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:40 pm
by shanYe - Predators
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
shanYe - Predators wrote:The reason Joe was a great leader was because he would lead by example and that's not something you can do from behind the bench, this is the same reason why I don't think a guy like Sundin or Naslund will end up making a great coach either.
I completely disagree with this. In all sports, you see examples of coaches that lead by example. Certainly having the credibility of being a top 10/top 15 all-time player helps, but having a strong personality and a no-bullshit attitude is leading by example. The players feed off the coaches mannerisms and are the embodiment of their coach on the ice. The Miracle on Ice is a perfect example. Those players adopted Herb Brooks's personality without really realizing it. It was their driving force to beat a much more skilled opponent.

When the chips are down, everybody looks to the coach for guidance. In that respect, Sakic would make a great coach.
I'm not convinced, I guess we have to wait and see when Joe becomes a coach who is right.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:23 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
shanYe - Predators wrote:I'm not convinced, I guess we have to wait and see when Joe becomes a coach who is right.
I'm not saying he'll be a good coach. I'm saying it is possible for a coach to lead by example. You said it wasn't.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:56 pm
by GM Office Q
shanYe - Predators wrote:I don't think he'd make a great assistant coach, or head coach.
Well, I don't really care what you think, considering I said I was going to hire him if he became available in EHM. Thanks for your insight though, champ.

His coaching skills in real life are completely irrelevant as he's already stated he won't be becoming one.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:03 pm
by TorontoGM
^why would you post this if you don't care about OTHER peoples opinions?

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:16 pm
by GM Office Q
Nevermind. Continue talking about whatever tangent you desire. Its up to you. Did you hear about the new ring discovered around Saturn? Cool stuff.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:23 am
by CapsGM
TorontoGM wrote:^why would you post this if you don't care about OTHER peoples opinions?
He made a topic about a top 20 player retiring after a great career, not about whether he's capable of coaching or not. Then it got hijacked into a debate about whether he's capable of coaching or not.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:44 am
by TorontoGM
Yep, welcome to the world of forums.

Re: SUPER JOE

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:47 am
by Bruins
:lol: