Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide

What's going on with the Draft? Is it almost done being edited? Are we allowed trading? Any particular attention to the EHEC Awards for this season.. Do we let the game decide, or do we vote? What happened with AHL playoffs?

Thanks fellas!

AHL playoffs were scrapped due to gamefile issues iirc, next year hopefully.

I'm all for doing the awards ourselves. No way Ovechkin should be winning the Lady Byng. If there's interest I'd volunteer to tally votes.

Sounds good.
Might as well be in charge of the whole thing if you have time (compile stats, nominate players, post pictures of the trophies, etc)! It would give the Staff a little break when they get back from MIA.

The Committee has set up a meeting for tomorrow evening where we'll be addressing league issues: deciding a sim schedule for the offseason, breaking down parts of the draft class so it gets done quickly and tying up loose ends from this past season. Thanks for the patience everyone.

First thing I'm going to say is that if GMs are unhappy with how things are being run, there is absolutely nothing forcing you to stay. Everybody knew going in to the start of the league that it would work on a real-time calendar basis. There have been zero surprises with that. So, if the few of you who have voiced displeasure want to leave, I encourage you to keep the door open long enough to get all the way through it without bruising your ass on the way out.

Second of all, there is no hurry whatsoever. The vibe I got was that there is very little interest in a summer tournament and even some of the more active GMs were advocating a summer break. Whatever the consensus decides is what we will do.

Third, like the rest of you, we are entitled to a break of our own. It's summer time. There's shit going on. I've already been to a handful of cookouts, a 40th birthday party, graduation parties of family and friends of family, several baseball games, two vacations, and have other things upcoming this week. Again, all of you knew this going in to a real-time schedule. Perhaps we could have given updates sooner, and I realize that teams who were not in the playoffs are getting anxious, but this is a league founded upon patience. We wanted to strive for realism and we are. I assume things will pick up with the trading of draft picks and other assets.

Our meeting will discuss what Ryan said plus when to end the moratorium on trading. I expect it will be in the near future. But, I will say this. Several teams haven't even bothered to sign their impending free agents. If your comrades as GMs aren't going to put in the effort, why should we? It's a two-way street. Some of you have been active all along and we appreciate that. We understand it's hard to be active during our playoff format and sim schedule if you aren't involved. So it means that much more to us for the GMs that have been. If you notice somebody slacking on their duties, send along a message, a PM, whatever.

Be patient with the process. September's a long way away, we understand that. But we definitely will not give credence to posts like the ones that have been deleted in this thread. If you feel a certain way and want to voice that opinion, if we disagree with it or it undermines this league, the people running it, or fellow GMs, you are very replaceable.

Trust me, I'm patient but there is nothing wrong with being frustrated with the fact that a week after the final was simmed there was still ZERO word from any staff member on anything relating to a summer plan, the draft/draft lottery or when trading might be re-opened. To be honest, I could care less how long we have to wait but whats wrong with wanting to know when everything is going to be done?

In no way shape or form, am I trying to undermine anyone or this league. Sorry if it came out the wrong way.

This isn't directed to anyone, but respond to your PM's! Even if its quick "no ty" or "not interested" it lets the other guy know he's going to have to look elsewhere. Everyone has been checking in (except DET GM who hasn't been online since April) so everyone is obviously pretty active. Most people like to do things last minute, setting deadlines for things (contract offers, draftee ratings, trading) will get people more active and get some more action around here.

I'd be happy to help out creating/rating the draftee's fyi. I hope we keep in mind we have a pretty tough gamefile (tons of sub 70 con players), idc really but a bunch 2nd/3rd rounders being better then good NHL players irl in a few years would kinda suck. We all know a players CON is the most important number right?

Will the off-season activity rewards (if any) be decided? i.e CON/ceiling boosts. I'll probably sim like 2-3 different gamefiles seeing the affects they have on different players, so more time the better.

I'm sorry too if it came out the wrong way.

As a great staff team, you got us used to knowing what's going on all the time so I was worried that there was no word at all after the cup, like Mike pointed out. I thought you were going to pull a Banaszak!

I'm also very anxious also for next season! My main focus will be to try to get more guys from my past leagues throughout the summer.

The only thing I disagree with is that a player finishing sixth in league scoring while missing six games and had just 18 penalty minutes is being questioned about contention for the Lady Byng. The guy was such a gentleman that he let Sergei Zinovjev take his place at the Olympics!

You guys will have that update tonight and it should quell all your fears.

Matt, we've already invested far too much time to "pull a Banaszak". No doubt it is a thankless position to put in a lot of work on something that may or may not be appreciated in the long run. Mostly, my post was frustration based due to that. Obviously, as a lot of you know, doing this for an online sim league is a rather thankless job. You don't get those hours back and really, it's hard to get a lot out of it besides the respect of the GMs. It'd be great if this job paid.

Everything's going to come together as it has all along in the league. It may be taking more time to do so than some of you like, but it'll all be done and everybody will be happy in the end.

Again, we'll have that update for you tonight.

I'll give you 200 Canadian dollars if you make sure I get the first overall pick.

Alright guys, updates are here. Hopefully it's enough to satiate everyone.

First, I want to start off apologizing to everyone for my lack of activity the last few weeks. Since my girlfriend started school in May, I've been swamped hardcore getting her to and fro, working two jobs myself, helping my mom with outdoor work around the house she bought late last year (which is turning out to be a hair-pulling project), dealing with my beyond troublesome car that both crapped the bed at one point and saved my ass (literally), and doing all of this on an average of 4 hours of sleep a night. Regardless, I need and want to find more time for the league, so I don't want anyone to assume that I or anyone else on the Committee are abandoning this glorious child of ours. I'm also not trying to play the pity card here, so please don't think I'm trying to completely justify my lack of appearances, I just want to let everyone know where I'm personally at right now, to help keep communication strong within the league. Don't hesitate to drop me a PM or email if you don't see me around here. I'll find the time.

Anywho, to league business. It has been decided that the target date for the Draft is June 25th. The *hope* and plan right now is to have the draft class compiled by the 21st to give GMs some time to scout. Adam will be dealing with the bulk of it, as is my understanding, but Ryan and I will pitch in to get it done ASAP. That being said, we all know the draft is the 18th in-game. Thus, we have decided that starting tomorrow, we will begin simming one day at a time as per usual (picking up from the 6th), and that should leave us with an in-game date of the 17th on the real-life date of the 25th. We will be doing a 2-day on, 2-day off sim schedule between Ryan and myself, with Ryan beginning the sim tomorrow. For example, Ryan will sim Tuesday and Wednesday, I will take Thursday and Friday, and so forth. To be safe, PM any special instructions to both of us, just in case.

- For the awards, we are asking if our "sub-Committee" (I believe Pat, Parker, and someone else, or anyone really interested) would be willing to step up and handle the league awards, collecting nominations, votes, etc. from the GMs.

- I honestly didn't get a specific date for the draft lottery, but rest assured it will be done very soon.

- No specified date for trading either, but the plan thus far is to have it re-instated by the end of the week. This could change, but I don't forsee it being prolonged.

If I missed anything, I'm sure Adam or Ryan will fill you all in. Again, hopefully this was the info everyone wanted to know. We all appreciate your patience, and understand the frustrations on all ends. Like any good relationship, we'll go through our bumps and bruises and get through it. We've gone through some during the season, and it only made things stronger. I expect the same to result here. Thanks everyone.

Great stuff Nicky!

I feel you with the 4 hour of sleep nights.

Good to hear that work on the draft is getting underway, but is there any way to tweak the dates so we can have a little more time to scout before the draft? Normally a GM would have an entire game year to put together a comprehensive draft strategy; four days seems like not very much time (especially in my case as I'll be working those four days and will have a maximum of about an hour each evening to do my scouting. I don't think anyone would have a problem with holding the draft a little later if it got us more time for scouting and evaluation. Just my two cents.

As far as I'm concerned, I think the four days is plenty of time because you'll ready only have to have your first round pick decided on by then. I don't know what kind of time limits we're giving on picks, but there's a very good chance that the first round will take 2-3 days.

If there's more outcry for longer scouting times, I have no problem with that. We're not going to release the entire draft class all at once, though.

The way I've been doing it is by the CSS Mid-season rankings. Obviously, the end of season rankings are out already. But, the players are, for all intents and purposes, going in to the file based on how well-rated they are. So really, while we're simming days in EHEC, there will be more draftees in the file each time. So, by the 21st or whatever, the only guys remaining from the file will be the lower round selections. And those rounds probably won't be started until at least the last couple days of June, maybe even July.

I had a job interview and have tickets to a musical and a date with my fiance today, so I haven't been able to do it, but I will be getting instructions on how I'm doing it to Nick and Ryan tonight when I get back and we'll be getting a good chunk done between tomorrow and Thursday. Even if we aren't simming that day, I will upload an updated file with draftees and post here that the file has been updated so that you can download the new one.

Also, expect the trade freeze to be lifted on Thursday.

Ouuuuuu Thursday will be a big day in Pittsburgh

Welllllllll, I did just spend a couple hours scouting the existing draft...but that was far from exhaustive, and if you're tweaking it anyway, those of us with a bucket of picks can't complain too much, surely.

jw about possible bonuses/rewards for the off-season?

Alright guys, I've just finished simming the 7th and uploaded http://www.ehechockey.com/EHEC.zip. Any transactions have been entered, as Adam said we'll be opening trading in a couple days

Tampa Bay GM wrote:jw about possible bonuses/rewards for the off-season?

We'll probably start with reach arounds and expand from there.

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:

Tampa Bay GM wrote:jw about possible bonuses/rewards for the off-season?

We'll probably start with reach arounds and expand from there.

circle jerks ftw

Anybody have an opinion on what the time limit should be to pick? After that you get the BPA as rated by EHM's rankings.

June 8th has been uploaded to the downloads section, no activity posted but did update some contracts. Get your offers in everyone.

How about we do the awards voting on the forums here? I assume you can make anonymous polls with single votes here... not sure if you can hide the results though, if that's important to anyone. Maybe one round of nominations and another of voting on the top 3 vote-getters?

For the draft, how about 12 hours per pick for the first round? If it takes too long it can always be cut down afterwards or for the later rounds.

12h sounds good.

I'll be in charge of the Awards. The nominees will be announced tomorrow night! (Friday around 6PM East)

Anybody know where I can find a draft lottery simulator? The link to the one on Fhockey's forums is dead. If anybody still has it and can email it over, that would be sweet.

Can't find one, but what you can do is roll a die.

Example, if the Oilers have 50% of getting the 1st pick, Panthers 30 and Flames 20,

you roll a 100 face die and if the number is 1 to 50, oilers, 51 to 80 panthers and 81 to 100 flames.

Something like that...

Finally found something:

http://www.tarantoola.com/fakedraftlottery/

NashvilleGM wrote:Finally found something:

http://www.tarantoola.com/fakedraftlottery/

I saw this too, but I have no idea what's going on with it.

These are the draft lottery odds, though: http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Draft-Lottery/

100 faced die:

25.0% - 77-100
18.8% - 58-76
14.2% - 44-57
10.7% - 33-34-35-36-37-38-39-40-41-42-43
8.1% - 25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32
6.2% - 19-20-21-22-23-24
4.7% - 14-15-16-17-18
3.6% - 10-11-12-13
2.7% - 7-8-9
2.1% - 6-7
1.5% - 4-5
1.1% - 3
0.8% - 2
0.5% - 1


It seems complicated tho, let's say I roll a 16. 7th place is now 3rd
Then I roll a 85, 1st stays first
Then I roll a 55, 3rd goes 2nd. 2nd cannot move down more than 1 spot so he takes 3rd and 7th goes 4th ( ????).
Then it goes on, 4 cannot move up and can only go down 1 spot so he gets 5
5 gets 6
6 gets 7.

....

Right now, I'm hoping I can do some digging and find somebody with the simulator. It would make it a hell of a lot easier.

The trades forum is now unlocked. Please be patient with our rulings as we will be hard at work on the draft class.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:

Tampa Bay GM wrote:jw about possible bonuses/rewards for the off-season?

We'll probably start with reach arounds and expand from there.

circle jerks ftw

last one to go has to eat the cracker

Just wanted to let everyone know that I have updated the file with about 20 European draftees. That makes about 90 draftees in the file currently. We're making great progress. As I went through EHM's CSB, I noticed that there were more draftees in there than I thought, but most of them are 5/6 POT and 5/6 CON guys. I left them in there as filler for the later rounds. I also removed the duplicate Derek Forbort.

If you guys come across any omissions, wrong birthdates, etc., please let me know. The end of season CSB rankings are very different from the midterm CSS ones were.

Note that the trading forum is unlocked and you guys should all update your Trade Blocks and let's get the activity back up around here. Like I said upthread, please be patient with us in approving trades.

Nick is having severe car trouble, including blowing out the power steering. He will dedicate what time he can to his portion of the draft, but when I finish mine, I'll just continue plodding along to help him out. Like I said, we may not have the whole thing done by the 21st, given that this weekend happens to be my fiance and my 5th anniversary of knowing each other and one year of being engaged, plus a grad party on Saturday. But, I will do what I can, and so will Nick and Ryan.

Ryan will be doing the goaltenders by removing the shittiest FAs from the file. We will also be doing this if we need more room for draft-eligibles.

Nick has the lottery simulator, but it has definite bugs, including not understanding trades. We will do what we can to get the lottery done. I know that it makes a big difference in some trade conversations, and I apologize for that. I'll be out for tonight at my niece's dance recital (WOOOO!), but I plan on doing more draftees before I go and some more tomorrow during the day.

I hope everybody received the mass email I sent out today to get everybody back to the boards and prepping for the draft. I'll be posting a poll later on about how long we want time limits to be. Or, I may just claim a dictatorship and decide on my own. Either way, you will know within the next couple days.

Congrats on the 5 years! 3 GMs are interested in the league! Should give you a little motivation to put in all this work.

June 9th is updated and posted.

Penguin wrote:Congrats on the 5 years! 3 GMs are interested in the league! Should give you a little motivation to put in all this work.

I just answered you offline.

Also, Matt, have them fill out the applications just so we have something on file for them.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:This isn't directed to anyone, but respond to your PM's! Even if its quick "no ty" or "not interested" it lets the other guy know he's going to have to look elsewhere.

this

Come on, people. It's blatantly easy for a GM to see if the other GM has checked the message he's received.

http://www.ehechockey.com/EHEC.zip

File is updated with 30 more European draftees. I believe there are 118 draftees total, so half of the CSB in EHM is real-life draftees now. Ryan has sent me over the list of the 38 players he will be overwriting to include goaltenders. Seems NHL CSB only has 38 goaltenders listed for this year's draft. I still think that's plenty. With 125 NA and 125 Euro skaters, we'll have 288 players spread over 7 rounds (210 picks). The other 78 guys will float around in EHM mediocrity until the WJCs, and then probably be re-written in a few years or fill out AHL rosters.

I'd like any feedback that you guys can give me on what's been done so far. Is the draft too strong? Is there enough variance amongst the players? Etc.


And I agree with Tim. I sent out the mass email yesterday and several of our GMs have just ignored it. ATL will be replaced in the next day or so. DET and ANA are on very thin ice unless they come around today or tomorrow. We have some candidates waiting in the wings. STL also has not been very active in the process so far. So he is also on very thin ice.

I'll be sending a second email tonight or tomorrow to those individuals who have not responded and, if they do not respond, we will go on without them so that the incoming GM has a chance to study the draft before making their selections.

I still see draftee's like Kelvin Bui, Lex Jelso and Karel Sznak. Those are game-gens right? Do we have a list of real life draftee's so I'm only scouting players irl?

Good to see that things are on track. I've been stuck at camp for a good two months, I've had no time do anything lol....sorry about the inactivity.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:I still see draftee's like Kelvin Bui, Lex Jelso and Karel Sznak. Those are game-gens right? Do we have a list of real life draftee's so I'm only scouting players irl?

Yes, those are game gen.

Here's the list of real-life draftees so far. The player ID is following. You don't need to worry about that, it's just for our records.

• Taylor Hall: 2900
  Tyler Seguin: 939
  Kirill Kabanov: 2601
  Jack Campbell: 950
  Mikael Granlund: 1780
  Riley Sheahan: 3265
  Brett Connolly: 182
  Vladimir Tarasenko: 949
  Cam Fowler: 2859
  Maxim Kitsyn: 295
  Ryan Johansen: 3291
  Teemu Pulkkinen: 504
  Nick Bjugstad: 3289
  Stanislav Galiev: 214
  Tyler Toffoli: 343
  Jeff Skinner: 1099
  Jacob Berglund: 958
  Alexander Burmistrov: 607
  Ryan Martindale: 956
  Joey Hishon: 2860
  Jordan Weal: 1035
  Emerson Etem: 1013
  Tom Kuhnhackl: 579
  Nino Niederreiter: 967
  Adam Pettersson: 1023
  Austin Watson: 1737
  Evgeny Kuznetsov: 288
  John McFarland: 215
  Tyler Pitlick: 1377
  Brock Nelson: 1590
  Kevin Hayes: 1326
  Brandon Gormley: 2313
  Ryan Spooner: 966
  Steve Shipley: 1027
  Ben Duffy: 1025
  Ivan Telegin: 1837
  Charlie Coyle: 1316
  Jonathon Merrill: 1303
  Derek Forbort: 3270
  Quinton Howden: 1031
  Erik Gudbranson: 275
  Billy Arnold: 1048
  Stephen Silas: 983
  Mark Stone: 1036
  Mark Pysyk: 930
  Dylan McIlrath: 4
  Stephen Johns: 1010
  Samuel Carrier: 556
  Colton Stephenson: 317
  Bryce Hagan: 194
  Ryley Miller: 1041
  Danny Biega: 3380
  Cody Castro: 664
  Tyler Gron: 2749
  Mark Owuya: 3425
  Kruise Reddick: 3466
  Toni Ritter: 3465
  Ilmari Pitkanen: 3464
  Nikolai Suslo: 1093
  Lukas Stoop: 1781
  Jan Piskacek: 231
  Sebastien Erixon: 3449
  Collin Bowman: 923
  Jesse Jyrkkio: 3424
  Anton Myllari: 755
  Vitaly Karamnov: 493
  Calle Jarnkrok: 3470
  Ludvig Rensfeldt: 3387
  Oscar Lindberg: 3341
  Martin Marincin: 3340
  Patrik Nemeth: 3335
  Alexei Marchenko: 3322
  Nikita Zaytsev: 3318
  Joonas Donskoi: 3297
  Jonathan Johansson: 3140
  Vladislav Kartayev: 3133
  Victor Ohman: 3130
  Nikita Gusev: 3128
  Mikael Salmivirta: 3123
  Petter Granberg: 3020
  Sergei Barbashev: 2989
  Mirko Hoefflin: 2986
  Bohuml Jank: 2980
  Patrick Cehlin: 2979
  Alexander Gogolev: 2963
  Sebastien Wannstrom: 2953
  Johan Alm: 2932
  Gaetan Haas: 2920
  Sebastien Ottosson: 2917
  Joel Vermin: 2846
  Artemy Panarin: 2843
  Jesper Farth: 2830
  Johan Larsson: 2809
  Tim Heed: 2805
  Tomas Filippi: 2797
  Joakim Nordstrom: 2787
  Lars Neher: 2761
  Yaroslav Alshevsky: 2730
  Erik Thorell: 2719
  Julius Junttila: 2701
  Pavel Kulikov: 2651
  Lukas Cingel: 2547
  Janos Hari: 2527
  Dominik Simcak: 2508
  Daniel Gunnarsson: 2505
  Andreas Dahlstrom: 2475
  Artem Voronin: 2473
  Vyacheslav Kulemin: 2426
  Daniel Krejci: 2424
  David Elsner: 2408
  Ricard Blidstrand: 2354
  Simon Lof: 2315
  Jani Hakanpaa: 2314
  Bogdan Kiselevich: 2257
  Teemu Rautiainen: 2249
  Petr Zamorsky: 2246
  Nikolai Nikontsev: 2229
  Aleksi Laakso: 2214

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:http://www.ehechockey.com/EHEC.zip

File is updated with 30 more European draftees. I believe there are 118 draftees total, so half of the CSB in EHM is real-life draftees now. Ryan has sent me over the list of the 38 players he will be overwriting to include goaltenders. Seems NHL CSB only has 38 goaltenders listed for this year's draft. I still think that's plenty. With 125 NA and 125 Euro skaters, we'll have 288 players spread over 7 rounds (210 picks). The other 78 guys will float around in EHM mediocrity until the WJCs, and then probably be re-written in a few years or fill out AHL rosters.

I'd like any feedback that you guys can give me on what's been done so far. Is the draft too strong? Is there enough variance amongst the players? Etc.


And I agree with Tim. I sent out the mass email yesterday and several of our GMs have just ignored it. ATL will be replaced in the next day or so. DET and ANA are on very thin ice unless they come around today or tomorrow. We have some candidates waiting in the wings. STL also has not been very active in the process so far. So he is also on very thin ice.

I'll be sending a second email tonight or tomorrow to those individuals who have not responded and, if they do not respond, we will go on without them so that the incoming GM has a chance to study the draft before making their selections.

I'm checking out the real draftees so far, so I'll be able to give you a good sense for how things go in a day or two there. Definitely like that we're running with real players instead of a mix of real and game gens.

edit:

just from looking over the top 30 or so real skaters the biggest standout to me is that Skinner is probably a good bit underrated. Definitely needs a ceilings fix upwards. On the other end I would say Marincin is probably overrated a bit in terms of his offensive ceilings.

I think Skinner was in the file before I started messing with it. IIRC, he's had a big jump in the rankings over this past year. It's possible that I may not have touched him at all. I'll take a look. On Marincin, he's 10th in CSB among Euro skaters right now. His OF ceilings may be above his talent level, but I felt that 65 OF and 75 DF was top 25 pick worthy. If you feel like I should go more with 56-58 OF and 80-82 DF, that can certainly be arranged.

Anyway, 15 more Euros to the draft class.

• Pontus Netterberg: 2202
  Bernhard Keil: 2199
  Iiro Pakarinen: 2195
  Arvid Stromberg: 2188
  Viktor Svedberg: 2187
  Juraj Petro: 2185
  Teemu Eronen: 2174
  Mauro Jorg: 2131
  Gal Koren: 2121
  Stanislav Bocharov: 2109
  Maxim Berezin: 2098
  Nils Andersson: 2087
  Lukas Kozak: 2075
  Corey Mapes: 2072
  Marek Racuk: 2044

File has been updated in advance of tonight's sim.

Are you going to adjust Kabanov in any way to account for his Moncton/WJC douchebaggery?

CapsGM wrote:Are you going to adjust Kabanov in any way to account for his Moncton/WJC douchebaggery?

There's not really an attitude marker in EHM, unfortunately, and there's no doubt that the kid has talent. I'm trying to think of a way to reflect his douchebaggery and still keep his talent at a high level. I will probably just lower his consistency and up his greed.

I might take him down a notch from being a mid 80s OF player and a high 60s-low 70s DF player to better reflect where he'll probably get drafted.

To those in the bottom 14 of the league standings, Nick and I are going to try and run the draft lottery live at 12 tomorrow in the Cbox. The password is e-h-e-c-c-b-o-x, minus the dashes. So if you want to be there live for the draft lottery, check in at 12 EST tomorrow, 6/19.

Damnnnnn, I gotta work tmw. Go leafs! Haha

Nick didn't post, but the file has been updated.