2020 Free Agency
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2020 Free Agency
Unrestricted free agency will begin on Wednesday, August 19 at 5 PM EDT.
All free agent re-signings must be completed by next Tuesday, August 18 by 11:59:59 PM EDT. If you have any concerns about a contract that has already been entered, bring them up ASAP.
As far as I'm aware, WPG, NJ, STL and FLA have yet to submit offers. STL and FLA are open, so I am actively seeking volunteers (from the opposite conference) to serve as interim GMs during UFA. soulja (NJ) has not logged in for a while; if he doesn't return I'll handle their contracts. Mason's active so I presume that the Jets will be fine.
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All free agent re-signings must be completed by next Tuesday, August 18 by 11:59:59 PM EDT. If you have any concerns about a contract that has already been entered, bring them up ASAP.
As far as I'm aware, WPG, NJ, STL and FLA have yet to submit offers. STL and FLA are open, so I am actively seeking volunteers (from the opposite conference) to serve as interim GMs during UFA. soulja (NJ) has not logged in for a while; if he doesn't return I'll handle their contracts. Mason's active so I presume that the Jets will be fine.
Questions or comments?
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
I can handle Florida's extensions. I guess any UFA signings will depend on their cap situation - it seems like no one has much space to maneuver.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
7PM EDT is 01:00 after midnight for me. If it could be moved to 4PM EDT what would actually be 22:00 for me, would make things much better for me. If possible. If it's not possible, it's not a big deal. Just wanted to let you know. Except that, everything sounds perfect.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
I suppose I can do St. Louis if no one else is.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
That would be appreciated.
Sorry I didn't opine earlier but Florida should qualify Chytil, Harkins and Blackwood and let Spacek and Thomas walk (possibly Pettersson too). This won't give them enough cap space to re-sign Koivu at the max but will give the new GM more options.AvalancheGM wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:33 am I can handle Florida's extensions. I guess any UFA signings will depend on their cap situation - it seems like no one has much space to maneuver.
I'm looking at NJ now and they're also going to have a ton of cap space but more than enough players to fill out a roster. I'm not sure what if anything these teams should do during UFA. Florida is probably still a playoff team even without Koivu; NJ and STL are on the bubble. Is it better to try to have them bid on some top-tier UFAs with 1-year contracts or leave it all open for a new GM? Unfortunately these three teams have all had bad luck with their recent GMs.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
I'm not re-signing Grant for what he wants, so at the moment Pettersson and Thomas are their 7/8 defencemen. I think Pettersson at the very least should be retained out of those three.
I'll remove Spacek from my offers, as well as Kaspar - he's already their 14th forward.
I'll remove Spacek from my offers, as well as Kaspar - he's already their 14th forward.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
So, I have disabled post editing in the contract offers forum so that people don't edit out offers entirely (accidentally or otherwise). There needs to be a record of every contract offer in case I enter them incorrectly or forget to edit the number of years back when trading an expiring contract.AvalancheGM wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:42 pm Uhh, I can't edit that post for some reason - cancel the offers to Spacek and Kaspar.
The same rule applies for the free agency forum - there is no editing offers or deleting posts. Take care when you make an offer. If you accidentally add an extra zero or something, quote the yourself with the correction.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Makes sense. Those two won't be offered then?
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Yes, I replied there with changes. My preference is to avoid committing orphan teams to long-term contracts unless necessary, and for Harkins in particular he's unlikely to maintain his overdeveloped ST/CH/PO for very long so a QO is preferable.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Cool. On another note, I can't get into GM Office - every time I click it, it logs me out and gives the "must be logged in" message. I've been having to log in manually every visit lately, but it wasn't a big deal till now.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
You have to use https://ehec.pro and not http://ehec.pro. There shouldn't be any http:// links left on the site so check your bookmarks. The links are all relative though so if you start off at http://ehec.pro you're going to stay there.AvalancheGM wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:34 pm Cool. On another note, I can't get into GM Office - every time I click it, it logs me out and gives the "must be logged in" message. I've been having to log in manually every visit lately, but it wasn't a big deal till now.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Ok, I compromised with 5 PM EDT. The time is set, rev your engines for this Wednesday.Dallas Stars GM wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:43 am 7PM EDT is 01:00 after midnight for me. If it could be moved to 4PM EDT what would actually be 22:00 for me, would make things much better for me. If possible. If it's not possible, it's not a big deal. Just wanted to let you know. Except that, everything sounds perfect.
I bumped the thread on hfboards so hopefully we can get a new GM or two by then. If not, Vik & Josh are you interested in making bids for STL & FLA?
By my math, STL & NJ have ~8M in cap room (with numerous QOs) and FLA has 3M. None of them really need to sign anybody, although STL could use goalscoring and NJ grit, respectively, and they probably all need some farm fodder. Or we could just leave them be and maybe just have NJ & STL take bids on picks for one-year contract dumps.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
FLA could use a couple of fourth-line forwards, rest will be AHL depth.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
I think Victor Baldayev contract extension (CAR) hasn't been inputted. Hopefully, WPG can do their contracts extensions by today. Other than that, I don't see any other issue.
Excellent work!
Excellent work!
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Well, the file has been advanced and we have officially entered a new season. Rev your engines for the opening of UFA Feeding Frenzy in just over 16 hours. Don't forget to review the bidding rules - veterans should especially note that all bids are in 50k steps now, even below 800k.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Is the UFA list in GMO up to date? I see a lot of guys in there who got offers from their teams.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Qualified RFAs end up in the UFA list. You have to check here to make sure you're not offer sheeting someone (unless that's what you want to do).AvalancheGM wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:06 am Is the UFA list in GMO up to date? I see a lot of guys in there who got offers from their teams.
Boston and New Jersey's QOs are missing from that list:
Brent Gates (BOS)
Nikita Korostelev (BOS)
Sam Reinhart (BOS)
Tyler Parsons (BOS)
Ebbe Sionas (NJ)
Gustav Lindstrom (NJ)
Ondrej Najman (NJ)
Stephen Harper (NJ)
Zemgus Girgensons (NJ)
Errors in contracts entered:
Michael Rasmussen should be 4 years.
Conor Timmins' contract was missed (1.75M x 1 year with St. Louis).
Ben Bishop should be 1.45M for 2 years.
Ilya Karpukhin should be 3 years.
Viktor Baldayev should be 3 years.
Jesper Eliasson should be 1.2M.
Nate Schnarr should be 2 years.
Matthew Murphy should be 850k.
Troy Rutkowski should be 2 years.
Nils Lundkvist's contract was missed (720k x 3 years with Arizona).
AJ Greer should be 2 years.
Alexander Pechurski should be 650k.
Ian Moore's contract was missed (600k x 3 years with Winnipeg).
Samuel Laberge should be 1 year.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Indeed. While I have considered entering QOs right away, that would make them not appear on any of the UFA pages except the pending one, which obviously has tons of other players on it.Vik (Habs) wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:14 am Qualified RFAs end up in the UFA list. You have to check here to make sure you're not offer sheeting someone (unless that's what you want to do).
Thanks, I fixed these.Vik (Habs) wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:14 am Michael Rasmussen should be 4 years.
Conor Timmins' contract was missed (1.75M x 1 year with St. Louis).
Ben Bishop should be 1.45M for 2 years.
Ilya Karpukhin should be 3 years.
Viktor Baldayev should be 3 years.
Jesper Eliasson should be 1.2M.
Nate Schnarr should be 2 years.
Matthew Murphy should be 850k.
Troy Rutkowski should be 2 years.
Nils Lundkvist's contract was missed (720k x 3 years with Arizona).
AJ Greer should be 2 years.
Alexander Pechurski should be 650k.
Ian Moore's contract was missed (600k x 3 years with Winnipeg).
Samuel Laberge should be 1 year.
Y'all will want to double-check any contracts I enter for you in the future. There will be blo... a lot of contracts entered in the next week or so.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Did Cederholm's contract not get inputted still? He's in the UFA list. Don't want to lose anyone I made offers to.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
It's entered in the file, he's on your roster page, and I'm not seeing him in the UFA list. Maybe try a refresh?AvalancheGM wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:44 pm Did Cederholm's contract not get inputted still? He's in the UFA list. Don't want to lose anyone I made offers to.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
can we get a clear number on the $ side of things. My spreadsheet includes the Barb buyout at i'm stilling at 57.08M I removed the rookies and farmers off the roster on the site and I sit at 55.66 even with a .62 that doesn't boost the salary on the site to 57/ I assume the spreadsheet is correct but am I mistaken?
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
There's really no way for us to give numbers in the offseason since we won't know who teams are using. I've given out rough estimates in past years but don't know if I'll have a chance to do anything this year. Could Ethan Bear be the issue (won't be on your team in GMO until his qualifying offer is accepted)?IslandersGM wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:57 pm can we get a clear number on the $ side of things. My spreadsheet includes the Barb buyout at i'm stilling at 57.08M I removed the rookies and farmers off the roster on the site and I sit at 55.66 even with a .62 that doesn't boost the salary on the site to 57/ I assume the spreadsheet is correct but am I mistaken?
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
The number on the roster page is just a sum of all of the salaries on your roster, not including RFAs. There's nothing more to it.IslandersGM wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:57 pm can we get a clear number on the $ side of things. My spreadsheet includes the Barb buyout at i'm stilling at 57.08M I removed the rookies and farmers off the roster on the site and I sit at 55.66 even with a .62 that doesn't boost the salary on the site to 57/ I assume the spreadsheet is correct but am I mistaken?
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
If by chance you accidentally start a second thread for a UFA that already has offers, let me know and I'll delete it.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Thanks Vik, EHM is giving me the dreaded runtime 53 error at the moment
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
For reasons I could not figure out, the Free Agency forum was showing strange results when it was split into the old default of 125 posts per page. Specifically, the bottom 10 topics from page 1 were showing up at the top of page 2. I tried changing the number of posts per page to 100 and the same thing happened. I've decided to just set it to 500 so that all of the topics show up on one page.
There is still an issue that the topic count (149) doesn't match the actual number of topics visible (139, including the RFA list thread). As far as I can tell, the topic count is just wrong. I don't remember if it was off by 10 when we started. I did delete some duplicate threads, but that doesn't seem to have changed anything. I suspect that there was a bug in older versions of phpBB. Anyway, as far as I can tell, no topics are missing from the forum list, but just to be safe you should also use the forums search if you want to bid on a player that doesn't seem to be listed.
There is still an issue that the topic count (149) doesn't match the actual number of topics visible (139, including the RFA list thread). As far as I can tell, the topic count is just wrong. I don't remember if it was off by 10 when we started. I did delete some duplicate threads, but that doesn't seem to have changed anything. I suspect that there was a bug in older versions of phpBB. Anyway, as far as I can tell, no topics are missing from the forum list, but just to be safe you should also use the forums search if you want to bid on a player that doesn't seem to be listed.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
So I decided to do some very basic projections and Colorado needs to ease up on the spending (to put it kindly). Trades aren't factored in and all of these projections are likely low with the lack of talented young'ns included. I also haven't factored in that Colorado is well over the 50 contract limit (and will, therefore, likely require some buyouts).
NJC = number of non-junior aged contracts
WEC = number of waiver eligible contracts over 800k
WES = waiver eligible salaries over 800k
UC = number of leading bids on UFAs
UWEC = number of leading bids on waiver eligible UFAs for over 800k
US = waiver eligible UFA salaries over 800k
TC = total contracts
TWEC = total waiver eligible contracts
P = penalties
TS = total salaries
MTS = minimum total salaries (if more than 22 waiver eligible contracts, remove 800k for each, if fewer, add 800k to get up to 22)
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Team NJC WEC WES UC UWEC US TC TWEC P TS MTS
COL 46 18 55510000 15 11 17300000 61 29 1400000 74210000 68610000
BUF 40 20 52870000 1 0 0 41 20 3734000 56604000 57804000
NSH 35 16 52300000 5 2 1750000 40 18 0 54050000 56450000
WSH 34 20 54280000 0 0 0 34 20 880000 55160000 56360000
CHI 24 12 50240000 3 0 0 27 12 0 50240000 56240000
ARI 41 13 50600000 0 0 0 41 13 0 50600000 56000000
CBJ 47 21 54634000 0 0 0 47 21 0 54634000 55234000
T.B 33 9 47022000 12 0 0 45 9 0 47022000 54822000
OTT 31 10 47040000 0 0 0 31 10 0 47040000 54240000
PIT 34 16 49710000 9 1 1300000 43 17 0 51010000 54010000
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NYI 28 13 47060000 9 2 1750000 37 15 620000 49430000 53630000
NYR 34 17 50512000 5 0 0 39 17 0 50512000 53512000
MTL 32 12 46180000 5 2 2400000 37 14 0 48580000 53380000
DAL 29 14 47600000 10 1 850000 39 15 600000 49050000 53250000
CAR 44 15 48620000 2 1 1000000 46 16 0 49620000 53220000
S.J 32 11 43730000 8 4 4950000 40 15 0 48680000 52880000
L.A 37 11 44900000 8 2 2400000 45 13 0 47300000 52700000
MIN 35 12 46150000 1 0 0 36 12 514000 46664000 52664000
DET 38 19 49610000 4 2 2150000 42 21 0 51760000 52360000
PHI 19 12 45540000 6 1 900000 25 13 0 46440000 51840000
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VAN 47 17 47636000 1 1 850000 48 18 300000 48786000 51186000
FLA 41 14 44220000 5 1 850000 46 15 0 45070000 49270000
EDM 33 9 38760000 7 0 0 40 9 503000 39263000 47063000
WPG 27 13 38960000 3 1 1100000 30 14 816000 40876000 45676000
ANA 39 13 36126000 2 2 3450000 41 15 1264000 40840000 45040000
TOR 39 13 36720000 2 2 3400000 41 15 0 40120000 44320000
N.J 37 11 35886000 1 0 0 38 11 512000 36398000 42998000
BOS 28 12 34000000 1 0 0 29 12 1144000 35144000 41144000
CGY 44 10 31380000 0 0 0 44 10 0 31380000 38580000
STL 24 8 19960000 15 6 9550000 39 14 2952000 32462000 37262000
WEC = number of waiver eligible contracts over 800k
WES = waiver eligible salaries over 800k
UC = number of leading bids on UFAs
UWEC = number of leading bids on waiver eligible UFAs for over 800k
US = waiver eligible UFA salaries over 800k
TC = total contracts
TWEC = total waiver eligible contracts
P = penalties
TS = total salaries
MTS = minimum total salaries (if more than 22 waiver eligible contracts, remove 800k for each, if fewer, add 800k to get up to 22)
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Realized I wasn't factoring in qualifying offers. So I added those in as well as any recent trades. Thing is getting too big now so here be the basics.
Edit: Also had Colorado signing Koivu instead of Florida, Mike fixed that anyway.
Edit: Also had Colorado signing Koivu instead of Florida, Mike fixed that anyway.
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Team TC TWEC TS MTS
COL 59 28 69510000 64710000
BUF 41 20 56604000 57804000
T.B 51 14 52862000 57662000
WSH 36 21 56160000 56760000
ARI 46 14 51750000 56550000
NSH 40 18 54050000 56450000
CHI 26 11 49200000 55800000
CBJ 47 21 54634000 55234000
PIT 46 18 52110000 54510000
OTT 31 10 47040000 54240000
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NYR 41 18 51512000 53912000
MTL 41 15 49580000 53780000
NYI 38 15 49430000 53630000
S.J 43 16 49680000 53280000
DAL 40 15 49050000 53250000
CAR 47 16 49620000 53220000
L.A 46 13 47300000 52700000
MIN 36 12 46664000 52664000
DET 42 21 51760000 52360000
PHI 25 13 46440000 51840000
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VAN 48 18 48786000 51186000
FLA 49 17 47620000 50620000
EDM 41 10 42013000 49213000
TOR 42 16 44920000 48520000
WPG 34 16 44726000 48326000
BOS 33 14 40844000 45644000
ANA 42 15 40840000 45040000
N.J 43 13 39148000 44548000
CGY 44 10 31380000 38580000
STL 42 14 32462000 37262000
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Well that was dumb of me.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Small thing that I noticed; Colorado's first reply on the Oscar Klefbom thread was "650k 2 yrs (FLA)", but his second was "850k 2yr". I assume he's not bidding against himself and that the second was intended to be for Florida ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Whoops, yes it was for FLA.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Are GM's running 2 teams allowed to bid against themselves on the same player? I've seen it come up a few times.
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When?TBGM - Geoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:06 pm Are GM's running 2 teams allowed to bid against themselves on the same player? I've seen it come up a few times.
We didn't really formalize rules for this. There is certainly strategy to UFA bidding but I don't see many circumstances where this would benefit anyone.
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Ok, I see what you mean:
Yeah, this is not cool. I forgot that last year we did, in fact, forbid interim GMs from bidding on the same free agents as for their main team. I'm really struggling to see how these bids could be in good faith.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
All three players would be good additions to the Panthers roster. I didn't know that wasn't allowed though.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
As someone who once ran an EHM league, here's my 2 cents.
-If someone is willing to outbid the current high bid, he can re-enter with the team that made the highest previous bid.
-If the bidding ends with the 2 final bids by the same GM, all bids should be cancelled and start fresh.
I see no reason to directly punish the GM in question if the rules weren't clearly stated beforehand. However if the rules are clear, some form of punishment should be handed out.
-If someone is willing to outbid the current high bid, he can re-enter with the team that made the highest previous bid.
-If the bidding ends with the 2 final bids by the same GM, all bids should be cancelled and start fresh.
I see no reason to directly punish the GM in question if the rules weren't clearly stated beforehand. However if the rules are clear, some form of punishment should be handed out.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
So then why didn't he make any initial offers for those players on behalf of Florida? He made the offers only after the fact Vik pointed out his excessive spending and now it directly benefits him cause he isn't the top bidder on those players. Pretty suspect, regardless of what rules are in place.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Being able to bid against your second team is a clear conflict of interest, as Vik raised last year. It means you can bail yourself out of bids you decided against with extra information about what other bids were made since then. So, I will allow other existing bids to stand, since I don't know of any others with clear conflicts, but the two on Smith and Jacques will be withdrawn. Yandle has already been outbid so that's a moot point, give or take 50k.
Any future bids by a GM with an interim position must be made by one and only one of those teams.
Any future bids by a GM with an interim position must be made by one and only one of those teams.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
That's fine with me. There have been several times I forgot whether I was making the bid as STL or FLA - you'll find I quoted several of them to clarify - and I know, for example, my first bid on Scheifele was intended to be from FLA.
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
After what he got the last couple years, I can't believe Joni Pitkanen went so cheap this year.
Updated projections:
Colorado's getting closer to compliant. Tampa Bay's up to 52 projected contracts (and these don't include junior aged players).
Updated projections:
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Team TC TWEC TS MTS
COL 52 23 63086000 62286000
T.B 52 15 53712000 57912000
BUF 42 19 55404000 57204000
WSH 36 21 56160000 56760000
ARI 46 14 51750000 56550000
NSH 40 18 54050000 56450000
CHI 26 11 49200000 55800000
PIT 47 19 53760000 55560000
CBJ 47 21 54634000 55234000
L.A 48 15 50050000 54250000
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OTT 31 10 47040000 54240000
NYR 41 18 51512000 53912000
DAL 40 16 49900000 53500000
NYI 37 14 48580000 53380000
CAR 46 16 49620000 53220000
S.J 47 17 50180000 53180000
MTL 39 14 48280000 53080000
MIN 35 12 46664000 52664000
DET 42 21 51860000 52460000
PHI 22 13 46440000 51840000
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VAN 48 18 48786000 51186000
FLA 49 17 47620000 50620000
EDM 40 11 43013000 49613000
WPG 38 17 45826000 48826000
TOR 42 16 44920000 48520000
BOS 35 16 43594000 47194000
N.J 43 14 39998000 44798000
ANA 41 14 39740000 44540000
CGY 46 11 33380000 39980000
STL 44 15 33912000 38112000
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Team Finland is coming together nicely
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
With bidding closed on most players, here be an update.
Colorado and Tampa don't have any open bids so, unless I've entered something wrong (entirely possible), they're over the contract limit.
And Colorado's over the cap.
Some noteworthy players not included in the numbers for some of the more expensive teams:
Mackenzie Entwistle (BUF)
Brett Howden (BUF)
Miro Heiskanen (WSH)
Tyler Benson (ARI)
Julien Gauthier (NSH)
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Team TC TWEC TS MTS
COL 53 23 63086000 62286000
T.B 52 16 54612000 58212000
BUF 41 19 55404000 57204000
CHI 27 12 51200000 57200000
WSH 36 21 56160000 56760000
ARI 46 14 51750000 56550000
NSH 39 18 54050000 56450000
PIT 47 19 53760000 55560000
CBJ 47 21 54634000 55234000
OTT 31 10 47040000 54240000
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MTL 40 15 49830000 54030000
NYR 41 18 51512000 53912000
NYI 40 15 49530000 53730000
L.A 47 14 48700000 53500000
DAL 39 15 49050000 53250000
S.J 46 16 49630000 53230000
CAR 47 16 49620000 53220000
PHI 26 17 50140000 53140000
MIN 36 12 46664000 52664000
DET 43 21 51860000 52460000
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VAN 48 18 48786000 51186000
TOR 43 17 47720000 50720000
FLA 49 17 47620000 50620000
EDM 39 12 43863000 49863000
WPG 36 15 43626000 47826000
BOS 34 15 41744000 45944000
N.J 44 15 41648000 45848000
ANA 41 14 38590000 43390000
CGY 48 14 35980000 40780000
STL 42 14 32262000 37062000
And Colorado's over the cap.
Some noteworthy players not included in the numbers for some of the more expensive teams:
Mackenzie Entwistle (BUF)
Brett Howden (BUF)
Miro Heiskanen (WSH)
Tyler Benson (ARI)
Julien Gauthier (NSH)
- TBGM - Geoff
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Yup, I know I've gotta move a few bodies ASAP
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
And by "asap" you mean over the next month and a half
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Re: 2020 Free Agency
Just noticed that Paul Dejersey (Boston buyout) is listed as an RFA with the Bruins.