2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
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2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Trades completed in January 2016: 10*
Trades completed in January 2015: 18
# of teams involved: 17
Most active: TB (6), DAL (4), COL (4)
Trades completed in February 2016: 0*
Trades completed in February 2015: 24
# of teams involved: 14
Most active: DAL (5), TB (4), CHI (4)
Trades completed within 24 hours of 2016 deadline: 0*
Trades completed within 24 hours of 2016 deadline: 18
# of teams involved: 19
Most active:BOS (5), DET (4). DAL (4). MTL (4), ANA (4)
Trades completed in January 2015: 18
# of teams involved: 17
Most active: TB (6), DAL (4), COL (4)
Trades completed in February 2016: 0*
Trades completed in February 2015: 24
# of teams involved: 14
Most active: DAL (5), TB (4), CHI (4)
Trades completed within 24 hours of 2016 deadline: 0*
Trades completed within 24 hours of 2016 deadline: 18
# of teams involved: 19
Most active:BOS (5), DET (4). DAL (4). MTL (4), ANA (4)
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Were a little behind schedule, so February should be wild right?
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I'm guessing YES.
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I had 4 people ask me about their cap situation yesterday (including Justin's post) so I'm guessing there's at least some legwork going on.
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Ya, I was surprised to see my allowable is still going down after the Horcoff deal. I think it starts to trend upwards soon after a few more games, or am I out to lunch?Vik (Habs) wrote:I had 4 people ask me about their cap situation yesterday (including Justin's post) so I'm guessing there's at least some legwork going on.
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You get more and more space with each game you play (so long as your salaries are under the cap). You currently sit with the 9th highest allowable (only ~$15M behind me for 1st (2nd is almost $12M behind me)).Tampa Bay GM wrote:Ya, I was surprised to see my allowable is still going down after the Horcoff deal. I think it starts to trend upwards soon after a few more games, or am I out to lunch?Vik (Habs) wrote:I had 4 people ask me about their cap situation yesterday (including Justin's post) so I'm guessing there's at least some legwork going on.
Based on my numbers:
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1 MTL 86575250
2 COL 74858167
3 PHI 74803056
4 NYI 74182955
5 NYR 71966101
6 CAR 71602419
7 BOS 71375379
8 WPG 71311591
9 T.B 71131766
10 MIN 70635000
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11 CGY 70035294
12 ARI 69975429
13 L.A 69908939
14 S.J 69833289
15 BUF 69617031
16 EDM 69462539
17 FLA 69384091
18 TOR 69370527
19 N.J 69115642
20 VAN 68955156
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21 DAL 68914905
22 PIT 68860606
23 CBJ 68849253
24 CHI 68747241
25 ANA 68620314
26 STL 68510005
27 DET 68327350
28 WSH 68164394
29 NSH 68163083
30 OTT 68076178
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Thanks for this Vik; I'm sure I am not the only one who would appreciate a weekly update next month as business picks up.
Aren't teams that have a higher amount of GP pre-deadline at a small advantage with the way we currently calculate the max allowable hit? Perhaps the last 48 hours we should use the same GP # for all teams? Just a thought.
Aren't teams that have a higher amount of GP pre-deadline at a small advantage with the way we currently calculate the max allowable hit? Perhaps the last 48 hours we should use the same GP # for all teams? Just a thought.
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Fine, but currently the biggest GP difference is 5. If the deadline were today, that means a team gaining/losing 6% of their max allowable cap hit (or something that effect, I am bad at math). I'm not sure what the largest GP difference will be deadline day, and currently I'm one of the teams with <50 GP, but it might be something worth considering for next season.Calgary.Flames wrote:It wouldn't make sense, JC.
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Max allowable payroll changes everyday, even after the trade deadline has passed.
At the deadline, teams with fewer GP will benefit from having their newly acquired players for more games, while teams with more GP will have a little more cushion.
No one has an advantage. It would be like asking for everyone to have the same schedule so that no one has an edge.
It just doesn't work this way.
At the deadline, teams with fewer GP will benefit from having their newly acquired players for more games, while teams with more GP will have a little more cushion.
No one has an advantage. It would be like asking for everyone to have the same schedule so that no one has an edge.
It just doesn't work this way.
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Can we get some update on cap numbers as of now?
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Dan updated his numbers today. Using those, the maximum allowable for everyone is:Dallas Stars GM wrote:Can we get some update on cap numbers as of now?
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1 MTL 95721540
2 COL 79216631
3 PHI 78979356
4 NYI 75920344
5 WPG 72909888
6 CAR 72721839
7 BOS 72677258
8 T.B 72326422
9 NYR 72317036
10 MIN 71666154
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11 S.J 70692657
12 ARI 70500529
13 L.A 70392798
14 CGY 70274075
15 FLA 70219001
16 BUF 70216869
17 TOR 69950799
18 DET 69876134
19 EDM 69807730
20 N.J 69725527
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21 DAL 69595927
22 VAN 69401732
23 CBJ 69117575
24 PIT 69105001
25 ANA 68651211
26 CHI 68635692
27 STL 68478718
28 WSH 68220875
29 NSH 68208748
30 OTT 68089098
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Great job Vik, you are the man! Thank you.
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If a team acquires a player that is currently in the minors, does that player automatically get assigned to their new teams AHL affiliate sans waivers, or are they placed on the NHL roster and subject to waivers if demoted?
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Based on the Artemi Panarin discussion, seems they can be demoted waiver-free after first being acquired.Tampa Bay GM wrote:If a team acquires a player that is currently in the minors, does that player automatically get assigned to their new teams AHL affiliate sans waivers, or are they placed on the NHL roster and subject to waivers if demoted?
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IF that player has been in the AHL all season long.
Otherwise, waivers.
Otherwise, waivers.
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Busy day for me. We've almost caught up to February's # from last year.
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Well it's going off my numbers since Dan's aren't quite updated so there will be some degree of inaccuracy but...Tampa Bay GM wrote:Can we get a 1 week update, Vik?
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1 MTL 99138761
2 COL 82018500
3 PHI 80756295
4 NYI 76433761
5 NYR 73968145
6 CAR 73515909
7 WPG 73438438
8 BOS 73088478
9 T.B 72985359
10 MIN 72300217
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11 S.J 71036159
12 CGY 70883333
13 ARI 70716215
14 L.A 70599554
15 FLA 70518478
16 BUF 70445568
17 DET 70275267
18 TOR 70176276
19 N.J 69947303
20 DAL 69942598
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21 EDM 69685170
22 VAN 69654565
23 PIT 69276739
24 CBJ 69146059
25 ANA 68862312
26 STL 68711943
27 CHI 68573566
28 WSH 68345109
29 NSH 68226899
30 OTT 68195441
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And compared to their current cap hit (as of today's sim), that gives teams the following in available cap room...
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1 MTL 40,270,261
2 PHI 25,380,920
3 COL 21,481,000
4 WPG 7,798,438
5 NYI 7,540,323
6 CAR 6,590,909
7 NYR 5,968,145
8 T.B 5,793,691
9 BOS 5,715,978
10 ANA 5,499,812
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11 MIN 5,495,217
12 ARI 4,656,631
13 S.J 4,544,176
14 FLA 3,743,478
15 TOR 3,043,941
16 CGY 2,883,333
17 WSH 2,857,609
18 N.J 2,661,314
19 L.A 2,599,554
20 BUF 2,445,568
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21 VAN 1,654,565
22 DET 1,394,434
23 PIT 1,381,739
24 CBJ 1,146,059
25 STL 932,571
26 OTT 528,189
27 DAL 336,350
28 NSH 226,899
29 EDM 113,920
30 CHI -1,483,396
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Question regarding the 'available cap space' charts. If I were to acquire a player making $2,000,000 a year, and demote a player making $700,000, have I used 2m or 1.3m in available cap space?
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1.3MTampa Bay GM wrote:Question regarding the 'available cap space' charts. If I were to acquire a player making $2,000,000 a year, and demote a player making $700,000, have I used 2m or 1.3m in available cap space?
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Jeeez, there are some trades I really don't understand.
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That's part of the fun.MartyFromOTTAWA wrote:Jeeez, there are some trades I really don't understand.
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Join the madness!MartyFromOTTAWA wrote:Jeeez, there are some trades I really don't understand.
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Again, these are my numbers, not Dan's, so some inaccuracy. You'll also have to factor in guys coming off LTIR, etc yourselves.
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# Team Max Current Available
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1 MTL 100969227 58868500 42100727
2 PHI 80756295 55375375 25380920
3 COL 82018500 60537500 21481000
4 ANA 68862312 60742500 8119812
5 WPG 73438438 65640000 7798438
6 NYI 76433761 68893438 7540323
7 CAR 73515909 66925000 6590909
8 BOS 73348295 67372500 5975795
9 NYR 73968145 68000000 5968145
10 T.B 72985359 67111668 5873691
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11 MIN 72300217 66805000 5495217
12 ARI 70918677 66059584 4859093
13 S.J 71225499 66491983 4733516
14 FLA 70518478 66775000 3743478
15 TOR 70176276 67132335 3043941
16 CGY 70883333 68000000 2883333
17 N.J 69947303 67285989 2661314
18 DAL 69942598 67556248 2386350
19 VAN 69654565 68000000 1654565
20 PIT 69276739 68000000 1276739
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21 CBJ 69198152 68000000 1198152
22 STL 68758572 67779372 979200
23 OTT 68195441 67667252 528189
24 L.A 70599554 70116429 483125
25 WSH 68361364 67987500 373864
26 NSH 68237212 68000000 237212
27 EDM 69685170 69571250 113920
28 BUF 70445568 70642500 -196932
29 CHI 68573566 73731962 -5158396
30 DET 70275267 76360833 -6085566
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DONE!Vik (Habs) wrote:Join the madness!MartyFromOTTAWA wrote:Jeeez, there are some trades I really don't understand.
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I updated to reflect Dan's numbers up to yesterday so there shouldn't really be differences now.
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# Team Max Current Available
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1 MTL 101,003,319 58,868,500 42,134,819
2 PHI 81,966,678 55,375,375 26,591,303
3 COL 82,018,501 61,217,500 20,801,001
4 WPG 73,861,630 65,640,000 8,221,630
5 ANA 68,862,311 60,742,500 8,119,811
6 NYI 76,805,578 68,893,438 7,912,140
7 CAR 73,778,570 66,925,000 6,853,570
8 MIN 72,550,000 66,805,000 5,745,000
9 T.B 73,211,966 68,000,000 5,211,966
10 NYR 73,101,953 68,000,000 5,101,953
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11 ARI 71,131,571 66,059,584 5,071,987
12 NSH 68,467,270 63,406,000 5,061,270
13 S.J 71,225,498 66,491,983 4,733,515
14 BOS 73,335,909 68,872,500 4,463,409
15 FLA 70,518,479 66,775,000 3,743,479
16 TOR 70,303,107 67,132,335 3,170,772
17 N.J 70,074,032 67,285,989 2,788,043
18 DAL 69,918,680 67,236,248 2,682,432
19 CGY 70,669,566 68,000,000 2,669,566
20 L.A 70,656,599 68,000,000 2,656,599
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21 VAN 69,586,436 68,000,000 1,586,436
22 PIT 69,258,260 68,000,000 1,258,260
23 CBJ 69,255,206 68,000,000 1,255,206
24 OTT 68,195,832 66,987,252 1,208,580
25 STL 68,585,320 67,779,372 805,948
26 WSH 68,361,364 67,987,500 373,864
27 EDM 69,731,070 69,571,250 159,820
28 BUF 70,445,567 70,642,500 -196,933
29 CHI 68,655,517 69,131,962 -476,445
30 DET 70,475,061 73,724,583 -3,249,522
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# Team Max Current Available
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1 MTL 103,009,739 58,868,500 44,141,239
2 PHI 81,966,678 55,375,375 26,591,303
3 COL 83,094,869 61,567,500 21,527,369
4 WPG 73,861,630 65,640,000 8,221,630
5 NYI 76,805,578 68,893,438 7,912,140
6 CAR 73,778,570 66,925,000 6,853,570
7 ANA 69,148,666 62,562,500 6,586,166
8 MIN 72,550,000 66,805,000 5,745,000
9 T.B 73,211,966 68,000,000 5,211,966
10 NYR 73,101,953 68,000,000 5,101,953
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11 ARI 71,131,571 66,059,584 5,071,987
12 S.J 71,431,303 66,491,983 4,939,320
13 DAL 69,918,680 66,106,248 3,812,432
14 FLA 70,518,479 66,775,000 3,743,479
15 NSH 68,467,270 64,746,833 3,720,437
16 TOR 70,303,107 67,132,335 3,170,772
17 N.J 70,074,032 67,285,989 2,788,043
18 CGY 70,669,566 68,000,000 2,669,566
19 L.A 70,656,599 68,000,000 2,656,599
20 BOS 73,419,881 71,572,500 1,847,381
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21 VAN 69,586,436 68,000,000 1,586,436
22 BUF 70,512,856 69,032,500 1,480,356
23 PIT 69,315,453 68,000,000 1,315,453
24 CBJ 69,255,206 68,000,000 1,255,206
25 STL 68,585,320 67,779,372 805,948
26 DET 70,475,061 69,904,583 570,478
27 OTT 68,195,832 67,737,252 458,580
28 WSH 68,379,167 67,987,500 391,667
29 EDM 69,731,070 69,571,250 159,820
30 CHI 68,655,517 69,131,962 -476,445
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Forgot about Gaborik's LTIR; will my max allowable move at all between now and the end of season assuming my current payroll stays at 68M?
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Every day you're below your max, you gain cap space.Tampa Bay GM wrote:Forgot about Gaborik's LTIR; will my max allowable move at all between now and the end of season assuming my current payroll stays at 68M?
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So despite the fact I am technically over, Gaborik's LTIR means I'm still going to be gaining cap space until he returns?
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Yep. If you want to figure it out, look up how many games you'll be without Gaborik for. Then you can do the following:Tampa Bay GM wrote:So despite the fact I am technically over, Gaborik's LTIR means I'm still going to be gaining cap space until he returns?
x = (66,119,168*60 + 68,000,000*GP) / (60+GP)
And then using the equation I previously posted to calculate the max...
(68M - amount in to date column * games played / 82) / (games remaining / 82)
You'd substitute that number for the to-date and you'd use the total number of GP at that point, rather than your current, for games played:
(68M - x * (60+GP) / 82) / ((82-(60+GP)) / 82)
Notes:
GP is the # of games remaining without Gaborik, not total GP
Using Dan's number which is different from mine though I don't understand why
And because I'm sure that'll look confusing, I'll do an example.
If Gaborik was to miss 10 more games, you'd do:
(66,119,168*60 + 68,000,000*10) / (60+10) = ~66,387,858
(68M - 66,387,858 * (60+10) / 82) / ((82 - (60+10)) / 82) = ~77,404,162
Also, this only works assuming you stay at 68M the entire time Gaborik's out (in other words, you don't exceed the allowable amount of LTIR room you've got).
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# Team Max Current Available
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1 MTL 103,009,739 58,868,500 44,141,239
2 PHI 83,232,930 55,375,375 27,857,555
3 COL 83,094,869 65,067,500 18,027,369
4 WPG 74,235,341 65,640,000 8,595,341
5 NYI 77,149,584 68,893,438 8,256,146
6 CAR 74,121,249 66,925,000 7,196,249
7 ANA 69,148,666 62,562,500 6,586,166
8 MIN 72,823,572 66,805,000 6,018,572
9 NYR 73,344,903 68,000,000 5,344,903
10 ARI 71,373,094 66,059,584 5,313,510
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11 T.B 73,211,966 68,000,000 5,211,966
12 S.J 71,431,303 66,491,983 4,939,320
13 FLA 70,688,637 66,775,000 3,913,637
14 NSH 68,653,292 64,746,833 3,906,459
15 TOR 70,440,966 67,132,335 3,308,631
16 N.J 70,213,434 67,285,989 2,927,445
17 CGY 70,790,910 68,000,000 2,790,910
18 L.A 70,777,354 68,000,000 2,777,354
19 BOS 73,419,881 70,672,500 2,747,381
20 OTT 68,325,886 65,594,752 2,731,134
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21 VAN 69,658,546 68,000,000 1,658,546
22 BUF 70,512,856 69,032,500 1,480,356
23 CBJ 69,317,966 68,000,000 1,317,966
24 PIT 69,315,453 68,000,000 1,315,453
25 STL 68,627,739 67,779,372 848,367
26 DET 70,475,061 69,904,583 570,478
27 CHI 68,683,072 68,131,962 551,110
28 WSH 68,379,167 67,987,500 391,667
29 DAL 69,929,861 69,706,248 223,613
30 EDM 69,739,061 69,571,250 167,811
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Matched my numbers up to Dan's again but the current may be different.
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# Team Max Current Available
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1 MTL 103,009,739 53,368,500 49,641,239
2 PHI 83,232,930 55,375,375 27,857,555
3 COL 83,094,869 63,317,500 19,777,369
4 NYI 77,734,714 68,893,438 8,841,276
5 WPG 74,235,341 65,640,000 8,595,341
6 ANA 69,462,293 62,562,500 6,899,793
7 MIN 73,124,500 66,805,000 6,319,500
8 T.B 73,444,204 68,000,000 5,444,204
9 NYR 73,344,903 68,000,000 5,344,903
10 ARI 71,373,094 66,059,584 5,313,510
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11 S.J 71,655,818 66,491,983 5,163,835
12 FLA 70,688,637 66,775,000 3,913,637
13 NSH 68,653,292 64,746,833 3,906,459
14 DAL 69,802,540 65,956,248 3,846,292
15 TOR 70,440,966 67,132,335 3,308,631
16 N.J 70,367,510 67,285,989 3,081,521
17 BOS 73,557,250 70,672,500 2,884,750
18 L.A 70,777,354 68,000,000 2,777,354
19 CGY 70,763,751 68,000,000 2,763,751
20 CAR 74,499,999 72,425,000 2,074,999
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21 OTT 68,359,885 66,694,752 1,665,133
22 VAN 69,658,546 68,000,000 1,658,546
23 BUF 70,586,874 69,032,500 1,554,374
24 CBJ 69,317,966 68,000,000 1,317,966
25 PIT 69,315,453 68,000,000 1,315,453
26 STL 68,627,739 67,779,372 848,367
27 DET 70,475,061 69,904,583 570,478
28 CHI 68,683,072 68,131,962 551,110
29 WSH 68,398,750 67,987,500 411,250
30 EDM 69,747,893 69,571,250 176,643
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Tomorrow -- 8pm Eastern time, US.Tampa Bay GM wrote:Out deadline is today or tomorrow? 8 or 10 EST?
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Bah, I was just going to usurp your authority and declare it to be 10 PM because that makes things more interesting.Commish Bub(NYR) wrote:Tomorrow -- 8pm Eastern time, US.Tampa Bay GM wrote:Out deadline is today or tomorrow? 8 or 10 EST?
By the way, be careful throwing around "tomorrow" here... I'll go with "the 29th".
Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
I would prefer it to be 10pm too ... if that's not too much to ask.
Life gets smoother around 7pm.
Life gets smoother around 7pm.
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
Yeah, forgot about you being on the other side of the world, Dan.
10pm it is then. Def means I won't be approving any deals tomorrow night, but then you all expected that, right?
10pm it is then. Def means I won't be approving any deals tomorrow night, but then you all expected that, right?
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Re: 2016 EHEC Trade Deadline
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12 FLA 71080001 66775000 4305001
13 DAL 70002345 66006248 3996097
14 TOR 70591359 67132335 3459024
15 NSH 68811527 65646833 3164694
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20 CAR 74615277 72425000 2190277
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23 BUF 70668683 69032500 1636183
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25 EDM 69813262 68571250 1242012
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