Montreal Canadiens Contract Offers

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:22 pm

F Max Pacioretty:

Length: 4 Years
Base Salary: $1.1M
Signing Bonus: Default
Extra(s): Team Option

D Matt Smaby:

Length: 3 Years
Base Salary: $700,000
Signing Bonus: Default
Extra(s): Two-Way Contract, Team Option

F Andrei Kostitsyn:

Length: 4 Years
Base Salary: $4M
Signing Bonus: Default
Extra(s): Team Option

BSBullies · Post by **BSBullies** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:33 pm

Rights are retained on all three players, they'll consider your offer.

Post by **SharksGM** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:25 pm

Why are people still trying to offer contract extensions and why are they being entered?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:25 pm

Yeah, these contracts should not have been entered.

I'll edit them out in tonight's sim.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:26 am

Why shouldn't we offer contract extensions..................

Tuo-SabresGM · Post by **Tuo-SabresGM** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:27 pm

There's a signing freeze for players currently under contract until the Committee can hash out a proper formula for re-signing guys, to help avoid cheap 6-year deals for young studs.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:14 pm

Just to make a note. I came across this thread while compiling the E5 stuff and these contracts are back where they were prior to the contracts being entered. Kostitsyn, Smaby, and MaxPac are all back on their one year deals that expire shortly.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:10 pm

The Montreal Canadiens are going to franchise tag Andrei Kostitsyn for the next ten seasons.

F Max Pacioretty:

Length: 4 Years
Base Salary: $1.8M
Signing Bonus: Default

D Matt Smaby:

Length: 4 Years
Base Salary: $1.1M
Signing Bonus: Default

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:33 pm

Kostitsyn: 5,425,000 (6.25 base, 4.875 with franchise tag; +350k off. spec, +200k SK)
Pacioretty: 2,018,750 (125% base, +250k 80+ CON, -200k SK, PE)
Smaby: 1,131,250 (125% base, +350k def. spec. -400k SH, PL, ST, PE)

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:37 pm

Kostitsyn, Pacioretty, and Smaby will all consider their offers.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:43 pm

I will send Moreau & Wallin to arbitration.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:40 pm

Max Pacioretty has signed a $2,100,000 per year, 4 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:11 am

Some farm + prospect contracts:

All Two-way, Team Option, default deals.

G Cedrick Desjardins
D Josh Gorges
C Ryan White
C Ben Maxwell
L Danny Masse
D Ryan O'Byrne
D Yannick Weber
G Jason Missiaen (Prospect)
C Patrick Johnson (Prospect)
D Alexei Emelin (Prospect)
D Danny Biega (Prospect)
G Petteri Simila (Prospect)
R Steve Qualier (Prospect)
C Joonas Nattinen (Prospect)

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:26 am

Desjardins: 781,250 (25% base)
Gorges: 1,375,000 (25% base) (remember new AHL max = 1.5M)
White: 1,062,500 (25% base)
Maxwell: default in-game
Masse: " "
O'Byrne: " "
Weber: 1,093,750 (25% base)

Prospects all to default ELCs 400k (or asking amount), with two-way. No options permitted under Rulebook.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:28 am

All contracts offered.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:18 pm

Dany Masse has signed a $650,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Josh Gorges has signed a $1,400,000 per year, 4 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Steve Quailer has signed a $450,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Yannick Weber has signed a $1,100,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Petteri Simila has signed a $450,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Andrei Kostitsyn has signed a $5,500,000 per year, 6 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Ben Maxwell has signed a $850,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Joonas Nattinen has signed a $450,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Danny Biega has signed a $400,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:35 am

Can I actually re-tract the Arbitration for Wallin? I didn't realize I had a Team Option I could use on Zidlicky instead.

*on second thought I'll just wait to find out the Arbitration on Chara as I may use Wallin as a 7th guy over Johnsson*

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:06 am

Montreal Canadiens wrote:Can I actually re-tract the Arbitration for Wallin? I didn't realize I had a Team Option I could use on Zidlicky instead.

Yeah, I didn't even forward your Wallin PM out yet. I'll just copy/paste the Moreau part from it.

Niclas Wallin, cue excitement, will be a free agent.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:27 pm

Montreal Canadiens will send Chara to the rights Arbitration.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:28 pm

An award has been determined in the Ethan Moreau arbitration.

MTL comps: Grier, Malhotra, Asham; 1 year with TO at 1.7M
Arbitrator comps: Steckel, Halpern, Peca

Ethan Moreau boasts a solid 77 DF and high LE. He is a very valuable asset to a team looking to make a deep playoff run and that's what MTL is. He does have average CON for his role and did take 56 minutes worth of minor penalties last season. Along with that, though, he was able to chip in 21 points.

There are a lot of players with similar OF/DF attributes to Moreau, but his 81 LE is what to focus on here. The question then becomes, how much is leadership worth with so many comparable players making anywhere between 1.5-2.5M. Given that Montreal traded for Moreau, there was obviously a desire to add that leadership.

There is no evidence to suggest that Moreau deserves any kind of pay cut, which my arbitrator agreed with suggesting 2M per. With EHEC's retirement policy, he will not decline in attributes and is a solid veteran leader on a team with just four guys over 70 LE. Perhaps an argument can be made for a slight discount based on Moreau's low PE. Because of that, I'll lean closer to the arbitrator, but go in the middle.

Brad, you can accept/reject Ethan Moreau for 1 year and a team option at 1.875M.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:22 pm

The Montreal Canadiens will accept Ethan Moreau at $1.875M for 1 year plus a Team Option.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:54 pm

The Zdeno Chara rights arbitration has been completed.

The Montreal Canadiens offered 6.5M per for 2 years with a team option. Because Chara was testing the market, the salary had to be 105% of my arbitrator's ruling.

My arbitrator proposed 6.15M.

105% of 6.15M is $6.4575M.

The Montreal Canadiens have signed Zdeno Chara for 6.5M for 2 years + TO.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Offer D Jonas Brodin the default ELC deal. I think it's $900K? With a two-way.

Offer G Frans Tuohimaa the default ELC deal, with a two-way.

Thanks.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:14 am

ELCs offered.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:01 am

Nobody has signed as of 6/23 in the sim, but Nemeth did boost.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:47 pm

I'd like to know the numbers on F Ales Hemsky on a 5-year deal.

Thanks boss.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Sat May 19, 2012 3:15 pm

^^Adam???

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Sat May 19, 2012 3:44 pm

arbitration

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:16 pm

Hopefully his Agent isn't nearly as good as Mason Raymond's.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:26 am

An award has been determined in the Ales Hemsky arbitration.

Terms: 3 yrs + TO
GM proposal: 5.2M per; comps: Parise, Heatley, Zherdev
Agent proposal: 6.7M per; comps: Kostitsyn, Heatley, Spezza

Hemsky followed the player protocol of having a strong season in a contract year. Hemsky wound up with .96 PPG with 73 pts in 76 games during the regular season and five more points in seven playoff games. In terms of the comparable players, Hemsky is somewhere in between all of them, which is good. He is the only 99 passer of the bunch and him and Heatley are the only two with 80 or better CON. The fact that this is one of the few cases where the GM has proposed a sizable raise shows what Hemsky is worth to him.

Zherdev and Parise are a little low for Hemsky and Spezza is a little high, largely because of his 91 HI. Kostitsyn is a solid comp who is slightly better defensively. Kostitsyn would have made close to 6.5M without the franchise tag option. Hemsky is a more consistent player than Kostitsyn and slightly lower defensively, mostly in the all-important hitting tactic. Consider that an unmentioned comp, Marc Savard, makes 5.9M and Hemsky is more consistent and significantly better defensively, and it's hard to put Hemsky's value below Savard's. Savard did have a better season than Hemsky, playing six more games and having 13 more points. Savard was also invisible in the playoffs and had nearly 40% of his points on the powerplay, compared to 30% on the PP for Hemsky. Hemsky is also in the prime of his career, doesn't take penalties, and should be an even more valuable player with the new line restrictions.

I award Ales Hemsky $6,250,000 per for the next 3 seasons with a team option. His 80+ CON and 99 PL are a combination that is rarely seen around the league. Also, as Hemsky just barely avoids the formula by a couple of months, his formula contract would be $6,337,500, so this is reasonably close to what he would have gotten had he been born in July instead of March.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:58 pm

The deadline to accept/reject Ales Hemsky's arbitration has passed without a response from the general manager.

Ales Hemsky is a free agent.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:41 pm

Montreal offers default ELC to Brandon Whitney.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:15 pm

Montreal sends F Saku Koivu to arbitration.

Also interested to know what it would cost to re-sign Burrows, Price, Bjugstad, and Colaiacovo.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:12 pm

Bjugstad: $4,012,500 (3.7625 base + 250k CON)
Price: Arbitration
Colaiacovo: Arbitration
Burrows: Arbitration

28 & over to arbitration.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:28 pm

Okay. Montreal will send all 3 guys to arbitration (along with Koivu) for an action packed negotiating summer.\

Scratch that, will accept Price's TO. Burrows & Carlo to arb.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:20 pm

Offer the following farm players default deals with TWO-way's and TO:

R Sergei Kostitsyn
L Nick Spaling
L David Skokan
D Juraj Valach
L Dany Masse
C Ben Maxwell

Also offer ELC to the following players with Two-way contracts and TO:

D Jesper Jensen
C Dustin Walsh
R Maxim Trunev
D Mac Bennett
R Brett Bulmer

Also offer Bjusgtad the max amount of years at the $4M+.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:21 pm

Awards have been determined in the Alex Burrows, Carlo Colaiacovo, and Saku Koivu arbitrations.

Burrows
Length: 1 + TO
GM proposal: 1.6M per; comps: MacArthur, Tootoo, Malhotra
Agent proposal: 2.5M per; comps: Kobasew, Bourque, Ott

As has been the case with most of the depth forwards covered so far in arbitration, there's a wide range of players that are similar in ability but drastically different in salary. Burrows underperformed for three different teams this season, bouncing from the Blue Jackets to the Jets to the Canadiens. One of the things that sets Burrows apart from the other mid-70s DF role players is that he has a 78 SH attribute. It didn't show up this season, with just seven goals in 70 games and one in the playoffs, but it is still there and has to be considered because EHM is a numbers game. But, Burrows is a player who seems to underperform pretty regularly, which is probably a byproduct of how EHM divides up ice time.

Burrows does have a good CON, which is somewhat negated by a low PE that has resulted in 268 PIM over four EHEC seasons. It's kind of difficult to assign a value to Burrows. Is he the player who chipped in 17 points and a +10 in 58 games for the Jackets in 2011-12, the player who had 11 points in his first 44 games this season while posting a +6, or the player who struggled mightily with little ice time in Montreal with five points in 41 games, including playoffs.

It's hard to see where Burrows deserves a salary increase, but it's also hard to see where he hurt the team enough for the maximum decrease. He has a good CON, pretty good LE skills, and a good enough SH to be an offensive factor in the right situation. Ultimately, Burrows deserves around the same salary, with a slight discount because of his poor showing for the Habs. I award Burrows 1 year + team option at 1.9M per.

Brad, you can accept/reject this award.

Colaiacovo
Length: 3 + TO
GM proposal: 1.425M per, comps: Gervais, Robidas, Michalek
Agent proposal: 2.75M per, comps: Daley, Wisniewski, Oduya

Colaiacovo is a solid two-way defenseman who handles the puck well enough to limit the turnovers. That's why he was +46 in TA-GA ratio. There aren't any real weaknesses in Colaiacovo's game and he played a big role for the Canadiens during the run to Game 7 of the ECF. Colaiacovo certainly played well enough for a salary increase. Gervais was coming off a very low real-life base salary, Robidas played well getting a lot of ice time for an orphaned team and could see an interesting offer in free agency, and Michalek had just 10 points, despite a higher CON than Colaiacovo. Daley was plucked out of free agency, which could be a baseline for what Colaiacovo could get on the open market. So was Wisniewski, added by these same Montreal Canadiens at 3.25M per. Oduya got 2.6M in arbitration last summer. The problem was that Oduya was coming off of an inflated real life contract.

Colaiacovo's combination of not turning the puck over and having a nice season with a team that made a deep playoff run is worthy of a raise. Also of consideration is that Colaiacovo will get the LE and CON upgrades over the duration of this contract. A CON upgrade to a player like him is big and it will put his LE over 70. That's worth considering.

I award Carlo Colaiacovo 2.25M per for the next three years + team option.

Brad, you can accept/reject this award.

Koivu
Length: 1 + TO & PO
GM proposal: 2.5M; comps: Whitney, Hecht, Jagr
Agent proposal: 3.75M; comps: Alfredsson, Kariya, Langkow, Connolly

Koivu managed 43 points this season while playing just 14 minutes per game on average. He still has a well above average PL attribute and an elite leadership skill. He still gets around the ice well at 38 years old with an 81 SK attribute. Thus far, he has shown little sign of vopatizing and a 75 CON should slow the process down. He also won over 53% of his faceoffs, the second-best mark on the Canadiens during the regular season. Koivu struggled in the postseason, but he also saw very little ice time with just 10 minutes per game and lost over 65% of his faceoffs. It was a bad time for Koivu to struggle and it has to be considered here.

Koivu is going to start showing signs of decline. But his 97 LE, his PL skills, and his quality CON are all good attributes for him to have. With Jason Arnott heading to free agency, the Habs will have three players over 80 LE and nobody else above 73. He'll certainly be taking on a bigger role on a team that would appear destined for another playoff appearance. Koivu doesn't deserve less money and deserves a slight raise for the additional LE and the team option gives the Canadiens some security if his skills do start to drop off.

I award Saku Koivu 1 year + TO & PO at 3.15M.

Brad, you can accept/reject this award.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:02 am

Accept Carlo. Reject Koivu, ridiculous. PS I have a ton of guys over 73 LE

About 5 come to mind.

Will get back to ya on Burr.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:14 pm

P.S. - Was drunk Bern my negotiator last night?

Can't compare Langkow to Koivu. Also don't see how you don't mention Michalek as a comp to Carlo when they are identical!

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:25 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:P.S. - Was drunk Bern my negotiator last night?

Can't compare Langkow to Koivu. Also don't see how you don't mention Michalek as a comp to Carlo when they are identical!

I don't think you understand how this process works.

The agent's job is to argue for his client. Why would he use Michalek as a comparison when Michalek doesn't make a lot of money?

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:01 pm

Well, no matter who's side you're on, can't argue with a player that is the exact same to a pending free agent.

Anyway, did all the farm contracts and prospect contracts get entered without any problems?

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:11 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:Offer the following farm players default deals with TWO-way's and TO:

R Sergei Kostitsyn
L Nick Spaling
L David Skokan
D Juraj Valach
L Dany Masse
C Ben Maxwell

Also offer ELC to the following players with Two-way contracts and TO:

D Jesper Jensen
C Dustin Walsh
R Maxim Trunev
D Mac Bennett
R Brett Bulmer

Also offer Bjusgtad the max amount of years at the $4M+.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:13 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:Well, no matter who's side you're on, can't argue with a player that is the exact same to a pending free agent.

Again, not sure you understand the process.

Contracts entered. No TOs on ELCs.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:00 am

Brett Bulmer has signed a $400,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Dustin Walsh has signed a $450,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

GoJetsGo · Post by **GoJetsGo** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:52 am

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Bjugstad: $4,012,500 (3.7625 base + 250k CON)
Price: Arbitration
Colaiacovo: Arbitration
Burrows: Arbitration

28 & over to arbitration.

Re: Bjugstad..

Hit e5s to his slot of 1.5M

77 average, 1.5M = 150% New base = $3.75M + .250 con bonus = $4.0M (even) a squabble over 12,000.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:19 pm

lol I was fine with him at $4.012 but whatever his contract is just offer away at 4 years.

Also offer ELC to D Steven Santini with a two-way and C Vincent Trochek with two-way.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:51 pm

Burrows
Length: 1 + TO
GM proposal: 1.6M per; comps: MacArthur, Tootoo, Malhotra
Agent proposal: 2.5M per; comps: Kobasew, Bourque, Ott

As has been the case with most of the depth forwards covered so far in arbitration, there's a wide range of players that are similar in ability but drastically different in salary. Burrows underperformed for three different teams this season, bouncing from the Blue Jackets to the Jets to the Canadiens. One of the things that sets Burrows apart from the other mid-70s DF role players is that he has a 78 SH attribute. It didn't show up this season, with just seven goals in 70 games and one in the playoffs, but it is still there and has to be considered because EHM is a numbers game. But, Burrows is a player who seems to underperform pretty regularly, which is probably a byproduct of how EHM divides up ice time.

Burrows does have a good CON, which is somewhat negated by a low PE that has resulted in 268 PIM over four EHEC seasons. It's kind of difficult to assign a value to Burrows. Is he the player who chipped in 17 points and a +10 in 58 games for the Jackets in 2011-12, the player who had 11 points in his first 44 games this season while posting a +6, or the player who struggled mightily with little ice time in Montreal with five points in 41 games, including playoffs.

It's hard to see where Burrows deserves a salary increase, but it's also hard to see where he hurt the team enough for the maximum decrease. He has a good CON, pretty good LE skills, and a good enough SH to be an offensive factor in the right situation. Ultimately, Burrows deserves around the same salary, with a slight discount because of his poor showing for the Habs. I award Burrows 1 year + team option at 1.9M per.

Brad, you can accept/reject this award.

With all due respect to this independent agent, the Montreal Canadiens will reject the arbitration handed down on pending free agent Alex Burrows. Burrows brought nothing to this playoff team that lost in Game 7 to the eventual Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins. Burrows found himself in the penalty box at key times in the playoffs, and wasn't contributing offensively to warrant a bottom 6 forward spot. The Canadiens will be happy to move forward with Peter Holland taking his place and wish Mr.Burrows all the best in the future.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:22 pm

Bjugstad offered.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:11 pm

ELCs offered.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:44 pm

Offer ELC to D Jonatan Nielsen.