Minnesota 2013
Moderator: SharksGM
Minnesota 2013
NHL
C-Nik Antropov - free agency
C-Benoit Pouliot - 2 years,TO
C-Kyle Brodziak - 2 years, TO
LW-Ethan Werek - 2 years,TO
D-Greg Zanon - 2 years, TO
D-Ian White - 1 year, TO
LW-Jason Chimera - 2 years, TO
AHL
RW-Matt Kassian - 3yrs,TO,TW
C-Cody Almond - Free Agency
D-Nick Leddy- 2yrs,TO,TW(250k bonus)
D-Maxim Noreau - 1yr,TO,TW
Prospects
Erick Thorell 3yr,TO,TW
Darcy Kuemper 3yr,TO,TW
NOTE:
As part as the activity reward drawing. Before entering Thorell's contract he will receive the +5/5 off/def ceiling boost.
+5 shooting(114>119)
+5 positioning(100>105)
C-Nik Antropov - free agency
C-Benoit Pouliot - 2 years,TO
C-Kyle Brodziak - 2 years, TO
LW-Ethan Werek - 2 years,TO
D-Greg Zanon - 2 years, TO
D-Ian White - 1 year, TO
LW-Jason Chimera - 2 years, TO
AHL
RW-Matt Kassian - 3yrs,TO,TW
C-Cody Almond - Free Agency
D-Nick Leddy- 2yrs,TO,TW(250k bonus)
D-Maxim Noreau - 1yr,TO,TW
Prospects
Erick Thorell 3yr,TO,TW
Darcy Kuemper 3yr,TO,TW
NOTE:
As part as the activity reward drawing. Before entering Thorell's contract he will receive the +5/5 off/def ceiling boost.
+5 shooting(114>119)
+5 positioning(100>105)
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
Pouliot: 1.4M (0% raise, -200k HI, PE)
Brodziak: 1.875M (1.725M base, + 350k def. spec. - 200k SH, ST)
Werek: 900k (no de-valuations, considered minor league player)
Zanon: Arbitration
White: Arbitration
Chimera: Arbitration
Kassian: 875k (25% raise)
Leddy: 1.15M (0% raise)
Noreau: offer in-game
Thorell: 400k, TW, no options permitted on entry-level contracts
Kuemper: 400k, TW, no options permitted on ELC
Brodziak: 1.875M (1.725M base, + 350k def. spec. - 200k SH, ST)
Werek: 900k (no de-valuations, considered minor league player)
Zanon: Arbitration
White: Arbitration
Chimera: Arbitration
Kassian: 875k (25% raise)
Leddy: 1.15M (0% raise)
Noreau: offer in-game
Thorell: 400k, TW, no options permitted on entry-level contracts
Kuemper: 400k, TW, no options permitted on ELC
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
Just did the ceiling change for Thorell. Apologies for losing it in the shuffle.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
Contracts offered.
Kuemper would only take 2-yr offer.
Kuemper would only take 2-yr offer.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
Minnesota has decided to decline to offer arbitration to White, Zanon, and Chimera. They are all UFAs.
Nick Leddy has signed a $1,200,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 1.15M)
Darcy Kuemper has signed a $400,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.
Matt Kassian has signed a $850,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 875k)
Erik Thorell has signed a $400,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.
Nick Leddy has signed a $1,200,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 1.15M)
Darcy Kuemper has signed a $400,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.
Matt Kassian has signed a $850,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 875k)
Erik Thorell has signed a $400,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Minnesota Wild. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2012
ELC'S
Yakupov-tw even though he might not want 1..........15 year ELC please
Subban-tw
Peterson-tw
Yakupov-tw even though he might not want 1..........15 year ELC please
Subban-tw
Peterson-tw
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
Two-ways are irrelevant for underager AHLers. For one, under 25 doesn't have to clear waivers. For another, their salaries don't count towards the AHL cap.MinnesotaGM wrote:ELC'S
Yakupov-tw even though he might not want 1..........15 year ELC please
Subban-tw
Peterson-tw
ELCs offered.
Yakupov: 2.5M
Subban: 1.75M
Petterson: 400k, would only take one year offer
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2012
ELCs offered.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2013
NHL
Kabanov- 3yr TO
Marchenko 3 yr TO
Mueller 3 yr TO
Elo 2 yr TO
Lelanc 2 yr TO
Lewis 3 yr TO
Harding 3 yr TO
Sheppard 2 yr TO
Grossman 2 yr TO
Pysyk 3 yr TO
Visnovsky 1 yr TO
Following players will not be offered contracts
Tim Thomas
Brian Rafalski
AHL
offer 1 yr contracts to all expiring players
Kabanov- 3yr TO
Marchenko 3 yr TO
Mueller 3 yr TO
Elo 2 yr TO
Lelanc 2 yr TO
Lewis 3 yr TO
Harding 3 yr TO
Sheppard 2 yr TO
Grossman 2 yr TO
Pysyk 3 yr TO
Visnovsky 1 yr TO
Following players will not be offered contracts
Tim Thomas
Brian Rafalski
AHL
offer 1 yr contracts to all expiring players
- Commish Bub(NYR)
- Posts: 6507
- Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:30 am
- Location: Maine
Re: Minnesota 2012
Visnovsky and Grossman will go to arbitration.
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
Awards have been determined in the Nicklas Grossman and Lubo Visnovsky arbitrations.
Grossman
Length: 3
GM proposal: 1.525M per; comps: Sanguinetti, Z. Michalek
Agent proposal: 2.525M per; comps: Barker, Colaiacovo, Oduya
Grossman turned 28 this past January, so he is barely exempt from the formula, which would have paid him the 2.525M requested by his agent. Two of the comps listed by the agent, Colaiacovo and Oduya, have both been through the arbitration process before. Colaiacovo got 2.25M this year and Oduya got 2.6M last year, but was coming off an overpaid real-life contract.
Grossman's biggest asset is clearly his 82 CON. The Wild do have a solid young defensive corps, and Grossman will be a nice fit there over the duration of this contract. Another nice feature about Grossman is his 76 ST. Unlike most defensive defensemen, Grossman is not inept with the puck, which led to only 32 giveaways. Grossman was a -30, however, but the Wild are a very young group still a year or two away from being a major factor.
The difference in proposals is exactly 1M. Colaiacovo is a good comp, with similar numbers and a lower CON, but had a better season than Grossman, playing on a better team. Grossman is a player with no weaknesses in his game and deserves to be in the 2M range with other similar players. With the 1M difference, meeting in the middle seems fair at 2.025M, slightly over the 2M mark, but it's worthy of the role he will play.
Chris, you can accept/reject Grossman at 2.025M for the next three seasons.
Visnovsky
Length: 2 + TO
GM proposal: 4.7M; comps: Boyle, Markov
Agent proposal: 5.04M; comps: Boyle, Kaberle
The comps that the GM provided are tough to work with. Boyle makes a ton of money and Markov was franchise tagged before Chris joined the league, so he would make 25% more than his listed salary. In my humble opinion, Kaberle is the best comp for Visnovsky. Kaberle is a bit better defensively, with a higher CON, and similar offensive production. Visnovsky will be one of the players helped the most by our veteran players upgrades, specifically his CON bump. Not only will it help slow the regression process, but it should help him contribute more offensively, since that's his strength.
Both sides agree that Visnovsky is overpaid. He doesn't have a bad TA-GA ratio, but he managed just 17 points at even strength in 19 minutes of ice time per game. Visnovsky still gets around the ice pretty well and the CON bump should help with his powerplay numbers, which is his greatest value. Keeping that in mind, and seeing such a small range between the GM and the agent's proposals, it'll be easy to meet around the middle here and put Visnovsky under the 5M mark where he belongs. 4.8M is slightly below the midpoint between the two sides and a 200k gap from Kaberle seems fair given Visnovsky's defensive shortcomings and likely regression over the course of this contract, though that salary is likely even more than Visnovsky would see on the free agent market.
Chris, you can accept/reject Visnovsky at 4.8M for two years plus a team option.
Grossman
Length: 3
GM proposal: 1.525M per; comps: Sanguinetti, Z. Michalek
Agent proposal: 2.525M per; comps: Barker, Colaiacovo, Oduya
Grossman turned 28 this past January, so he is barely exempt from the formula, which would have paid him the 2.525M requested by his agent. Two of the comps listed by the agent, Colaiacovo and Oduya, have both been through the arbitration process before. Colaiacovo got 2.25M this year and Oduya got 2.6M last year, but was coming off an overpaid real-life contract.
Grossman's biggest asset is clearly his 82 CON. The Wild do have a solid young defensive corps, and Grossman will be a nice fit there over the duration of this contract. Another nice feature about Grossman is his 76 ST. Unlike most defensive defensemen, Grossman is not inept with the puck, which led to only 32 giveaways. Grossman was a -30, however, but the Wild are a very young group still a year or two away from being a major factor.
The difference in proposals is exactly 1M. Colaiacovo is a good comp, with similar numbers and a lower CON, but had a better season than Grossman, playing on a better team. Grossman is a player with no weaknesses in his game and deserves to be in the 2M range with other similar players. With the 1M difference, meeting in the middle seems fair at 2.025M, slightly over the 2M mark, but it's worthy of the role he will play.
Chris, you can accept/reject Grossman at 2.025M for the next three seasons.
Visnovsky
Length: 2 + TO
GM proposal: 4.7M; comps: Boyle, Markov
Agent proposal: 5.04M; comps: Boyle, Kaberle
The comps that the GM provided are tough to work with. Boyle makes a ton of money and Markov was franchise tagged before Chris joined the league, so he would make 25% more than his listed salary. In my humble opinion, Kaberle is the best comp for Visnovsky. Kaberle is a bit better defensively, with a higher CON, and similar offensive production. Visnovsky will be one of the players helped the most by our veteran players upgrades, specifically his CON bump. Not only will it help slow the regression process, but it should help him contribute more offensively, since that's his strength.
Both sides agree that Visnovsky is overpaid. He doesn't have a bad TA-GA ratio, but he managed just 17 points at even strength in 19 minutes of ice time per game. Visnovsky still gets around the ice pretty well and the CON bump should help with his powerplay numbers, which is his greatest value. Keeping that in mind, and seeing such a small range between the GM and the agent's proposals, it'll be easy to meet around the middle here and put Visnovsky under the 5M mark where he belongs. 4.8M is slightly below the midpoint between the two sides and a 200k gap from Kaberle seems fair given Visnovsky's defensive shortcomings and likely regression over the course of this contract, though that salary is likely even more than Visnovsky would see on the free agent market.
Chris, you can accept/reject Visnovsky at 4.8M for two years plus a team option.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2013
Thanks,
Wild will accept both
Any news on other players contracts or is it shown in game.
Wild will accept both
Any news on other players contracts or is it shown in game.
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
Haven't advanced the file, so no contract news. But I do need those calculated so I can offer them.MinnesotaGM wrote:Any news on other players contracts or is it shown in game.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2013
Kabanov
78.5 average, 1.2M current, 150% increase = $3,000,000
+100k SK
+350k Specialist
Total salary: $3,450,000
Marchenko
77.5 average, 1.15M current, 150% increase = $2,875,000
+350k Specialist
-100k HI devaluation
Total salary: $3,125,000
Mueller
76 average, 1,250,000 current, 100% increase = $2,500,000
+100k SK
Total salary: $2,600,000
Elo
62 average, $450,000 current, 25% increase = $562,500
Total salary: $562,500
Leblanc
70.5 average, $600,000 current, 100% increase = $1,200,000
+100k FA
+350k Specialist
-300k CH, PO, HI
Total salary: $1,350,000
Lewis
66 average, 1.2M, 0% increase, 1,200,000
+350k Specialist
-200k SH, PL devaluations
Total salary: $1,350,000
Sheppard
67.5 average, 1.2M, 50% increase, 1,800,000
+250k CON
+350k Specialist
-500k SH, PL, SH, HI, FA devaluations
Total salary: $1,850,000
Pysyk
77 average, $1.45M current, 150% increase, $3,625,000
Total salary: $3,625,000
78.5 average, 1.2M current, 150% increase = $3,000,000
+100k SK
+350k Specialist
Total salary: $3,450,000
Marchenko
77.5 average, 1.15M current, 150% increase = $2,875,000
+350k Specialist
-100k HI devaluation
Total salary: $3,125,000
Mueller
76 average, 1,250,000 current, 100% increase = $2,500,000
+100k SK
Total salary: $2,600,000
Elo
62 average, $450,000 current, 25% increase = $562,500
Total salary: $562,500
Leblanc
70.5 average, $600,000 current, 100% increase = $1,200,000
+100k FA
+350k Specialist
-300k CH, PO, HI
Total salary: $1,350,000
Lewis
66 average, 1.2M, 0% increase, 1,200,000
+350k Specialist
-200k SH, PL devaluations
Total salary: $1,350,000
Sheppard
67.5 average, 1.2M, 50% increase, 1,800,000
+250k CON
+350k Specialist
-500k SH, PL, SH, HI, FA devaluations
Total salary: $1,850,000
Pysyk
77 average, $1.45M current, 150% increase, $3,625,000
Total salary: $3,625,000
Re: Minnesota 2013
Farm
Eetu Heikkinen under 60.
Sean Lorenz under 60.
Marco Scandella..
62.5, 73 DEF, current $450,000 100% increase, = $900,000
+350k Specialist
-300k SH, PL, ST
Total salary: $950,000
Harri Ilvonen under 60.
Roberts Bukarts under 60.
Ilmari Pitkanen under 60.
Peter Kalus under 60.
Tomas Marcinko under 60.
Eric Doyle under 60.
Miika Lahti under 60.
Aaron Marvin 25% increase, $575,000
Alexander Fallstrom under 60.
Doug Rogers at 60 (in game).
Andris Dzerins under 60.
Eetu Heikkinen under 60.
Sean Lorenz under 60.
Marco Scandella..
62.5, 73 DEF, current $450,000 100% increase, = $900,000
+350k Specialist
-300k SH, PL, ST
Total salary: $950,000
Harri Ilvonen under 60.
Roberts Bukarts under 60.
Ilmari Pitkanen under 60.
Peter Kalus under 60.
Tomas Marcinko under 60.
Eric Doyle under 60.
Miika Lahti under 60.
Aaron Marvin 25% increase, $575,000
Alexander Fallstrom under 60.
Doug Rogers at 60 (in game).
Andris Dzerins under 60.
- Commish Bub(NYR)
- Posts: 6507
- Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:30 am
- Location: Maine
Re: Minnesota 2013
Grossman and Visnovsky arbitration awards entered.
Let me know about the remaining contracts.
Let me know about the remaining contracts.
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
All contracts offered.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
As far as Harding goes, he's in the same area as Pekka Rinne, Ondrej Pavelec, and Jaro Halak. Somewhere in between those guys. The range there is 2.55-3.85M. He's closer to Rinne than Pavelec and probably a little bit better than Halak. I guess 3.5M seems fair for Harding. I never got the arbitration stuff done for Harding, so I'm just going with that.
Josh Harding at 3.5M per for 3 years + TO. Chris, you can accept/reject.
Josh Harding at 3.5M per for 3 years + TO. Chris, you can accept/reject.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
Entered.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2013
Please offer ELC's to following players please
#27-Jared Hauf--$1,750,000
#35-Evgeni Gureyev--$1,500,000
#155--Ryan Kujawinski--$600,000
#27-Jared Hauf--$1,750,000
#35-Evgeni Gureyev--$1,500,000
#155--Ryan Kujawinski--$600,000
- Virtual Jarmo
- Posts: 8716
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm
- Location: Cleveland, OH
- Contact:
Re: Minnesota 2013
ELCs offered.
Adam Burke
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Former Commissioner, Current Jackets GM and Owner of Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide
Re: Minnesota 2013
Please offer ELC'S
Nick Ritchie 11th overall $2,000,000
Thather Demko 41st overall $1,250,000
Pavel Jenys 84th overall $850,000
Aaron Haydon 89th overall $850,000
Axel Holmstrom 94th overall $800,000
Beau Starrett 161st overall $600,000
Can I get numbers for following players please
NHL
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins--4 yrs
Ty Rattie--4yrs
AHL
Robbie Russo
Alan Quine
For Hopkins I came up with $5,375,000 and Rattie $3,731,250 please let me know if I calculated right or not
Thanks
Nick Ritchie 11th overall $2,000,000
Thather Demko 41st overall $1,250,000
Pavel Jenys 84th overall $850,000
Aaron Haydon 89th overall $850,000
Axel Holmstrom 94th overall $800,000
Beau Starrett 161st overall $600,000
Can I get numbers for following players please
NHL
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins--4 yrs
Ty Rattie--4yrs
AHL
Robbie Russo
Alan Quine
For Hopkins I came up with $5,375,000 and Rattie $3,731,250 please let me know if I calculated right or not
Thanks
Re: Minnesota 2013
Nick Ritchie - $2,000,000
Thather Demko - $1,250,000
Pavel Jenys - $850,000
Aaron Haydon - $1,150,000 (booster)
Axel Holmstrom - $1,050,000 (booster)
Beau Starrett - $600,000
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - $8,150,000
Ty Rattie - $3,750,000
Robbie Russo - $400,000
Alan Quine - default
Thather Demko - $1,250,000
Pavel Jenys - $850,000
Aaron Haydon - $1,150,000 (booster)
Axel Holmstrom - $1,050,000 (booster)
Beau Starrett - $600,000
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - $8,150,000
Ty Rattie - $3,750,000
Robbie Russo - $400,000
Alan Quine - default
Re: Minnesota 2013
Offer John Ramage ELC and assign to ahl please
Selected #116 of 2010
Selected #116 of 2010
- Commish Bub(NYR)
- Posts: 6507
- Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:30 am
- Location: Maine
Re: Minnesota 2013
ELC offered.