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Here is the spreadsheet with the three updated brackets. This sheet will be read-only. I've uploaded a blank calculator here as well.

All players on all 30 pro rosters are accounted for. I'll have to put in minor league players manually. Please let us know which minor leaguers you wish to re-sign.

Goalies are excluded from this spreadsheet. If you have picked up a team option for a player you can disregard that player from this list.

The 27-32 and 33+ brackets will be posted in the rulebook when we have the time to update it. The under 27 bracket remains the same. For the most part, base salary for 27-32 and 33+ players has been scaled down to keep contracts in line (you're welcome, New Jersey).

Bonuses listed in the rulebook for players under 27 remain the same as before as well. The 80-84 attribute, 85+ attribute, consistency, and specialist bonuses now apply to contracts for any age. The devaluations and LE bonuses in the rulebook now apply to the 27-32 bracket as well. For veteran players, under 65 attribute devaluations are worth -$50,000 and 80+ leadership for veteran players gives a $300,000 bonus.

Don't hesitate to ask questions or point out mistakes.
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This doesn't include E5 bonuses though, right? I think last time around they applied before the extension. But you're welcome to give us a break on them too.

And I guess basing contracts on the fastsim attributes is out?

e: One last thing... max RFA contract is 7 years long, no matter the age? I suspect there will be a lot of 7-year contracts signed this offseason...
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We don't see a need to do E5 bonuses. Most eligible players are either renegotiating contracts now or have maxed out their bonuses.
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SharksGM wrote:And I guess basing contracts on the fastsim attributes is out?
Yup. The fastsim doesn't necessarily develop players appropriately either.

If a prospect isn't close to developed by the time they're off their ELC, then they wouldn't have had much of a financial burden to begin with. Or maybe they're 2X/3X boosters, in that case the team's been rewarded for being patient in developing them.
e: One last thing... max RFA contract is 7 years long, no matter the age? I suspect there will be a lot of 7-year contracts signed this offseason...
Yes, UFA and RFA are now a seven year maximum term. Next year we might look at a "buying UFA years" premium that affects AAV the closer a player is to UFA. But we haven't gave managers much time to react to this as is, so offer those mega contracts now.
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Minor leaguers are mostly a 25% increase, but I'd say for 27+ minor leaguers, there's no reason to give them any more money unless they're tweeners. Since we're just editing these in players.ehm instead of making the players agree to them in EHM, we won't have to worry about minor leaguers getting pissy about their contracts because they want more money than they're worth.
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The link for the blank calculator seems to be broken.
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So I changed my contract offer post based in these new numbers which are a bit lower than the previous calculation.

I love this Excel file, so much easier to understand! Way to go!
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Thanks. A new blank calculator is available here.
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Two things to remember, folks, as you're offering contracts and considering whether to accept team options:

1. You are limited to the number of 27+ YO players with expiring contracts you can re-sign.

2. You will be able to have a MAX of 50 players under contract once the season starts. That means pro, farm, AND prospects.
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1. You are limited to the number of 27+ YO players with expiring contracts you can re-sign.

2. You will be able to have a MAX of 50 players under contract once the season starts. That means pro, farm, AND prospects.
27+ YO // What does this mean?

You will be able to have a MAX of 50 players under contract once the season starts. That means pro, farm, AND prospects. // Well, that changes a lot . . . Will have to re-consider some contract extensions of some of my minor leaguers and releasing some of my players. I will re-update my "contract offers" thread post tomorrow.
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Dallas Stars GM wrote:
1. You are limited to the number of 27+ YO players with expiring contracts you can re-sign.

2. You will be able to have a MAX of 50 players under contract once the season starts. That means pro, farm, AND prospects.
27+ YO // What does this mean?
Players who are 27 years old or older.
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Before all these seven year extensions get thrown around, please remember that for 35+ contracts (contracts signed by players 35 and older), you're on the hook for the entire salary - even if the player retires early. This goes for players under team control right now and unrestricted free agents.
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How many players are we allowed to sign between 27-32 and 33+ y/o with expiring deals for our NHL and AHL teams? Was it three or four?
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1 expiring = 1 eligible
2-4 expiring = 2 eligible
5+ expiring = 3 eligible

Exercising an option or signing a player through rights arbitration does not affect your eligibilty count.
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CapsGM wrote:1 expiring = 1 eligible
2-4 expiring = 2 eligible
5+ expiring = 3 eligible

Exercising an option or signing a player through rights arbitration does not affect your eligibilty count.
Is that for all expiring contracts, or 27 y/o+?

And arbritration is only for goalies, rights acquired through trade, and 35 y/o + player?

edit: that is for one team, not NHL and AHL combined correct?
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27+.

Arbitration is for goalies. Rights arbitration is for any player 27+ acquired through trade. 35+ will be handled by the 33+ bracket. Unless they are acquired through trade. Or are a goalie.

This applies to all expiring contracts in your organization.

For example, I have >5 pending UFAs, so I can retain a maximum of three. I'm re-signing Datsyuk and Steckel through the 32+ bracket, and Bishop through arbitration. There's a couple AHLers I'd like to re-sign but I've reached my limit.
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Tim your the best, thanks for the timely responses. You da man!
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CapsGM wrote:Before all these seven year extensions get thrown around, please remember that for 35+ contracts (contracts signed by players 35 and older), you're on the hook for the entire salary - even if the player retires early. This goes for players under team control right now and unrestricted free agents.
I don't think the "35+" part of this is in the rulebook. Is this an official rule now? I'm aware it's NHL policy.
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Hmm, the rule states this:
3. Contracts to retired players will continue to count against the cap for
the duration of the contract.
I don't think there has been much precedence where a player under 35 has signed a long-term contract and retired prematurely.
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CapsGM wrote:Hmm, the rule states this:
3. Contracts to retired players will continue to count against the cap for
the duration of the contract.
I don't think there has been much precedence where a player under 35 has signed a long-term contract and retired prematurely.
Well, uh, in a few years from now when Thornton starts vopatizing with 3 years left on his deal, and if we're still using EHM, I might bring it up again...
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CapsGM wrote:We don't see a need to do E5 bonuses. Most eligible players are either renegotiating contracts now or have maxed out their bonuses.
The contracts for Tarasenko and Jarnkrok (at least) are ridiculous without E5 bonuses.
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SharksGM wrote:
CapsGM wrote:We don't see a need to do E5 bonuses. Most eligible players are either renegotiating contracts now or have maxed out their bonuses.
The contracts for Tarasenko and Jarnkrok (at least) are ridiculous without E5 bonuses.

Agreed.
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Did one of you guys just volunteer to help us out? If you want to put in the work for it, go ahead. The three of us don't have a lot of time at the moment. We still have to do arbitrations and people are hounding us to get UFA started.

FYI both Tarasenko and Jarnkrok only meet the goals bonus. That would bring Tarasenko up to $4.25M and Jarnkrok $3.1M. Their raises now aren't that ridiculous compared to what they'd get with that single E5 bonus.
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CapsGM wrote:Did one of you guys just volunteer to help us out? If you want to put in the work for it, go ahead. The three of us don't have a lot of time at the moment. We still have to do arbitrations and people are hounding us to get UFA started.
Did you just ask me to do it?
CapsGM wrote: FYI both Tarasenko and Jarnkrok only meet the goals bonus. That would bring Tarasenko up to $4.25M and Jarnkrok $3.1M. Their raises now aren't that ridiculous compared to what they'd get with that single E5 bonus.
Those are much more reasonable salaries in my opinion. And it's not like paying Jarnkrok a cool million extra gives me some mysterious benefit; it's just more fair.
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Sure, do it. Post it here and I'll incorporate it in the new calculator.
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I'm getting through most of them, but what do I do about players who are tied for the ranked criteria (IT/G, +/-)? Like Jarnkrok was tied for 6th in IT/G on Calgary. He also didn't play 42 games for Calgary, but he was probably in the top 6 for IT/G in Ottawa before the deadline.

Also there are a bunch of guys who look like they were signed to 400k ELCs after the financial policy went into effect, are they eligible for bonuses?
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Use a proxy tiebracker like points for IT/G and GA-TA ratio for +/-. Hard to tell with guys like Jarnkrok, but use your discretion.

Were those guys 2010 draftees?
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CapsGM wrote:Hmm, the rule states this:
3. Contracts to retired players will continue to count against the cap for
the duration of the contract.
I don't think there has been much precedence where a player under 35 has signed a long-term contract and retired prematurely.
Johnsson is retiring, and he signed his 6 year deal with Montreal at 34.
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CapsGM wrote:Use a proxy tiebracker like points for IT/G and GA-TA ratio for +/-. Hard to tell with guys like Jarnkrok, but use your discretion.

Were those guys 2010 draftees?
Okay. These were the guys I think should be eligible but can't verify; most are 2010 draftees:

Chris Stewart (can't find when he was signed)
Brock Beukeboom (2010 draftee)
Andreas Dahlstrom (2010 draftee, but he didn't hit any bonuses anyways)
Petr Straka (2010 draftee)
Sami Vatanen (2009 draftee, can't find when he was signed)
Johan Alm (2010 draftee)
Sergei Barbashev (2010 draftee)
Bernhard Keil (2010 draftee, hit no bonuses)
Austin Watson (2010 draftee signed in 2011, hit no bonuses)
Joey Hishon (2010 draftee, no bonuses)
Tyler Pitlick (2010 draftee, no bonuses)
Jeff Skinner (2010 draftee, no bonuses)
Edward Pasquale (2009 draftee, no idea when he signed. Didn't play enough to hit bonuses this year but he might next)
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I posted the E5 bonuses for this season in that thread. Not a lot of them, but I managed to screw myself over with Jarnkrok and Cogliano (I had already budgeted for it anyway but no free cap space :(). Still, some players deserved the bonuses, like Perron and Spooner.

People should check over their own players' bonuses first off, keeping in mind that I might have gotten the current teams wrong for recently traded players.
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Thanks, Dan.

I've updated my master spreadsheet to account for these. As Dan says, double check your bonuses. If there's no issues I'll update the Google Doc in the next few days, and hopefully verify all contract numbers posted thus far.
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