2015 EHEC UFA Discussion Thread

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:10 pm

This UFA season is a little more eventful then most with the new minimum offer system and extension formula; figured we could use a thread just like the draft.

Not surprised to see MaxPac first to go, he suits the BSBully style well. Buffalo got a nice veteran in Gionta at a very reasonable price. But, WOW, Boyle gets over 6 million from a team with major cap issues. Interested to see how Edmonton is going to manage this....

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:14 pm

Also, quite curious to see who is going after Miller.

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:17 pm

18hours have past now...

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:18 pm

Chicago added, what? Seven dmen. That was interesting. I'm guessing we're going to see some releases coming.

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:21 pm

haha ! wanted to make sure I got my share of the pie....but got the pie itself.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:22 pm

I'm going to bring up the Dan Boyle issue to Bub and we'll see what comes out of it.
Totally not a fan of that signing.

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:40 pm

Looks like Dallas did St. Louis a favor with the St. Clair deal. Not even half of what the calculator gave him.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:46 pm

Vik (Habs) wrote:Looks like Dallas did St. Louis a favor with the St. Clair deal. Not even half of what the calculator gave him.

I don't mind this. Premium/core players are kept at a higher cost with the calculator and a free market determines the rest.

The Boyle signing is a bit concerning; will let the higher-ups determine what should happen. This also goes for Spezza, it seems something fell apart at the last minute.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:47 pm

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:18hours have past now...

Free agency is the WORST time of year for staff. It has to be the most tedious and time-consuming part of the whole season. I'm not sure how many people are monitoring offers, but it is not fun. Everyone should show gratitude and patience towards staff members at this time.

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:49 pm

You misunderstood what I meant. I was just adding to your post that indeed, interesting to see who is after Miller, and that we will know very soon since the deadline passed.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:50 pm

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:18hours have past now...

Yes, it has. +1 math skills.

The Boyle situation is ongoing. We'll keep everyone posted.

And I missed that St. Clair is an RFA. So STL has a chance to match the DAL offer. Liam, PM me with what you want to do.

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:06 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Also, quite curious to see who is going after Miller.

Arizona definitely wasn't my guess. They've gotta have the most consistent duo in the league.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:27 pm

Laughton and Bickell at great prices for Dallas. Brouwer was also a nice signing, Vik.

I forgot MIller didn't play last year. Might of been in on him myself.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:58 pm

Spezza's a UFA. Resubmit if you tendered an offer earlier. Save me some work.

Go wild guys.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:01 pm

Don't ask people to go wild, man!

They're everywhere.
They aren't giving us a minute.
They're like wolves on raw meat.
They kinda scare me, honestly.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:31 pm

Calgary.Flames wrote:Don't ask people to go wild, man!

They're everywhere.
They aren't giving us a minute.
They're like wolves on raw meat.
They kinda scare me, honestly.

You win.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:41 pm

17 guys online....

What the hell, people?!
Rumors are that #EHEC, #Frenzy and #Bernisgay are now trending on twitter.

flyergp21 · Post by **flyergp21** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:47 pm

I can't see Spezza, where is he?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:00 pm

flyergp21 wrote:I can't see Spezza, where is he?

He is listed as an RFA, but Bub confirmed the 12 PM Sunday deadline for a deal to get done had past. Consider him a UFA.

My heart goes out to Marty and Ottawa.

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:23 pm

The rulebook says we can bid 4 times on one player but this thread says 3. Which be it?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:26 pm

Vik (Habs) wrote:The rulebook says we can bid 4 times on one player but this thread says 3. Which be it?

That thread is so old, I have to assume we are using the updated rulebook. I have sent in three offers on a player without success and wasn't notified of being disqualified from future bidding.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:26 pm

Vik (Habs) wrote:The rulebook says we can bid 4 times on one player but this thread says 3. Which be it?

That thread is so old, I have to assume we are using the updated rulebook. I have sent in three offers on a player without success and wasn't notified of being disqualified from future bidding.

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:26 pm

A lot of money changing hands today.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:30 pm

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:30 pm

3 offers max

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:39 pm

Calgary.Flames wrote:3 offers max

The updated rulebook is overruled by a post from 2011?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:46 pm

The latest Spezza thread should probably say when the new high bid was received.

And with that I'm out of Spezza-mania. Over/under on how many bids will be exceeded?

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:55 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:
Calgary.Flames wrote:3 offers max
The updated rulebook is overruled by a post from 2011?

I can't find any discussion saying we changed the rule from 3 to 4. So the rulebook must be a typo.

MartyFromOTTAWA · Post by **MartyFromOTTAWA** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:02 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:My heart goes out to Marty and Ottawa.

Yah really cheap coming from these who knew about it way before Bub has told me... (They will recognize themselves)

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:06 pm

c'est la vie

Makes things more interesting.

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:15 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:
Vik (Habs) wrote:The rulebook says we can bid 4 times on one player but this thread says 3. Which be it?
That thread is so old, I have to assume we are using the updated rulebook. I have sent in three offers on a player without success and wasn't notified of being disqualified from future bidding.

Believe that post has been updated (though not completely) seeing as it has the new minimum, the longer than 4 years, etc.

Nero Avalanche · Post by **Nero Avalanche** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:35 pm

still cant see SPezza

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:50 pm

Nero Avalanche wrote:still cant see SPezza

Check players.ehm

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:17 pm

Vik (Habs) wrote:
Tampa Bay GM wrote:
Vik (Habs) wrote:The rulebook says we can bid 4 times on one player but this thread says 3. Which be it?
That thread is so old, I have to assume we are using the updated rulebook. I have sent in three offers on a player without success and wasn't notified of being disqualified from future bidding.
Believe that post has been updated (though not completely) seeing as it has the new minimum, the longer than 4 years, etc.

I combed over a free agency update threads. I saw updates but nothing about increased bids. 3 it is.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:36 pm

ARZ likes goalies.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:50 pm

CGY likes Patricks/Patriks.

I'm flattered.

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:32 am

Tampa Bay GM wrote:ARZ likes goalies.

I don't believe so....he traded 2 in the same week.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:43 am

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Free agency is the WORST time of year for staff. It has to be the most tedious and time-consuming part of the whole season. I'm not sure how many people are monitoring offers, but it is not fun. Everyone should show gratitude and patience towards staff members at this time.

This. The entire offseason is tough, but free agency is a whole new dynamic. You have to respond to every PM, make folders to organize bids, keep track of how many bids for each team, monitor the time limits, and somebody is bound to be unhappy and take it out on you.

Pat, Julien, and Dan have done an excellent job of taking things over and I like how they've simplified a lot of processes. I was trying to conquer too many things at one time because EHM was so limited in its financial capacity. I like a lot of the things that they have done and I like how active the current GM base is. Overzealous GMs sometimes wore on me (Hi Justin) but it was a lot better to have one of those than somebody I had to chase down twice a week to handle something.

I don't remember a year in which I had this many FA bids this early in the process. They've done a great job of spacing out the offseason as well. The turnover rate in the offseason was always something I stressed over. Not the case this summer at all, even with how quickly the draft flew by.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:28 am

Nashville with another surprise; loading up on veterans with two year deals...

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:48 am

Nice get for Colorado, really excited to see what they can do next year.

Post by **SharksGM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:14 pm

I suspect we will see some action in the waiver wire come October.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

SharksGM wrote:I suspect we will see some action in the waiver wire come October.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:24 pm

There ain't no stopping this frenzy.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:09 pm

Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:
Tampa Bay GM wrote:Free agency is the WORST time of year for staff. It has to be the most tedious and time-consuming part of the whole season. I'm not sure how many people are monitoring offers, but it is not fun. Everyone should show gratitude and patience towards staff members at this time.
This. The entire offseason is tough, but free agency is a whole new dynamic. You have to respond to every PM, make folders to organize bids, keep track of how many bids for each team, monitor the time limits, and somebody is bound to be unhappy and take it out on you.

Pat, Julien, and Dan have done an excellent job of taking things over and I like how they've simplified a lot of processes. I was trying to conquer too many things at one time because EHM was so limited in its financial capacity. I like a lot of the things that they have done and I like how active the current GM base is. Overzealous GMs sometimes wore on me (Hi Justin) but it was a lot better to have one of those than somebody I had to chase down twice a week to handle something.

I don't remember a year in which I had this many FA bids this early in the process. They've done a great job of spacing out the offseason as well. The turnover rate in the offseason was always something I stressed over. Not the case this summer at all, even with how quickly the draft flew by.

Thanks for the kind words, Adam, from all the league staff.

We're going to remember this free agency period in 10 months or so when we start saying "free agency here is dead." Maybe we don't get a large number of star players going UFA, but there was still talent to be had, and a lot of guys apparently needed to fill in their bottom lines and their AHL teams. It's always funny to see which players ignite little bidding wars. Nothing like the "Drew Miller for $4.5M please!" of yesteryear, but still fun to see.

And thanks to the GMs for making us work. And for being patient as new things come along and we get things sorted out. We'll be even better next year, promise.

Once the frenzy dies down in a day or two, I'll update the file with all the confirmed signings and other movements.

Now, on to the Jason Spezza sweepstakes...

Dallas Stars GM · Post by **Dallas Stars GM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:14 pm

I suspect we will see some action in the waiver wire come October.

Um, yeah, gotta leave some roster spaces for that

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:24 pm

New format seems to be working pretty good so far.
Older guys are making their way back into EHEC and that's a good thing to see.
I remember last year, I was able to grab most of the younger guys on pretty good deals but it's another ball game this time around. I can see some guys scouting every new name that gets bid on.

I was thinking ''This Rasmus Bengtsson dude looks cool, I'll offer him something..'' and then the bidding followed.

Guys, go to hell for not letting me walk outta here with my hands full.
But, also, thanks for the added challenge.

Dallas Stars GM · Post by **Dallas Stars GM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:34 pm

Would like to read (after it all ends) about the top 3 best free agents signing and, sure, also the top 3 worst.

BLUESGM · Post by **BLUESGM** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:57 pm

I really want to delve into the UFA market, but right now I am working to get down to 50 contracts and being CAP compliant! Happy bidding guys

MartyFromOTTAWA · Post by **MartyFromOTTAWA** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:09 pm

Dallas Stars GM wrote:Would like to read (after it all ends) about the top 3 best free agents signing and, sure, also the top 3 worst.

I like the Sens GM's move who let Spezza go testing the market and finally got him back at a cheaper price

Did you say logic?

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:13 pm

10.2 is max contract. So...

And it's been over 30 minutes with no new bids. Wright, Thorell, and Pribyl are getting lonely.